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Matt_WRX 01-04-2019 02:09 PM

opinions on EBC brake pads and discs?
 
my front pads are squeaking and they look low so its time for a change.

looking at EBC red stuff front and rear pads along with the grooved and dimpled discs, anyone recommend EBC or another brand?

cheers

Steve_PPP 01-04-2019 02:21 PM

Wouldn't recommend EBC in green/red/yellow. The Blue NDXs aren't bad.

Better alternatives out there than red for sure. I'd personally go just grooved as well.

Matt_WRX 01-04-2019 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP (Post 248824)
Wouldn't recommend EBC in green/red/yellow. The Blue NDXs aren't bad.

Better alternatives out there than red for sure. I'd personally go just grooved as well.

ok cheers, what alternatives would you say were best or most reliable?

SpecB 01-04-2019 04:28 PM

When I've bought the pads myself I've always gone for the Ferodo DS2500s however these are not the cheapest option - I have had the EBC Ultimax's on the Legacy in the past (COuldn't get 'performance' pads for the OE callipers) and they were OK until pushed hard then faded badly.

Bolesroor 01-04-2019 04:32 PM

You could always give Alyn a call at asperformance
0191 410 3770
www.asperformance.com

Alyn will match your car/ driving style/ needs with recommendations and is always very competitively priced and uses a1st class delivery service.

BIG"E" 01-04-2019 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolesroor (Post 248828)
You could always give Alyn a call at asperformance
0191 410 3770
www.asperformance.com

Alyn will match your car/ driving style/ needs with recommendations and is always very competitively priced and uses a1st class delivery service.

As above thoroughly recommend..:doubleup:

Matt_WRX 01-04-2019 04:49 PM

that's a big help, I take it he knows subarus inside out? lol
and does he advise on all aspects of tuning?

scooby doo 01-04-2019 09:29 PM

Ebc are utter crap.

Ds2500 very good for fast sprints . Plain high carbon discs I’m not a fan of slotted/ drilled discs.
Genuine Brembo pad / disc combo works well.
Alyn is your man too for knowledge and supplying,

Matt_WRX 02-04-2019 02:31 AM

EBC are out the window then :lol:

might try and go for some STI brakes as they are Brembo? just what ive seen so far online, along with some Brembo pads

BIG"E" 02-04-2019 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WRX (Post 248834)
EBC are out the window then :lol:

might try and go for some STI brakes as they are Brembo? just what ive seen so far online, along with some Brembo pads

Call Alyn at A S Performance, tell him you are a member of Southeastscoobies. :ok:

Matt_WRX 02-04-2019 01:02 PM

BIG"E" will do matey :doubleup:

Ginola 03-04-2019 10:39 AM

Wouldnt touch EBC brakes at all utter garbage in my experience.


Pagid RS29 is where its at (but they are not cheap) or Endless pads also not cheap.


Ds2500 is more a fast road pad the DS3000 is a better but decent trackday/race pad, both of them are more aggressive on discs than the above mentioned Pagid pad.


I assume the RS29 is available for standard Brembo, you would need to ask supplier, as above drop Alyn a line.

georgehawkins27 09-04-2019 11:45 AM

So from what I can tell the best R90 EU road legal pad is probably the brembo ones? DS2500 aren't road legal and Ferodo don't seem to publish operating characteristics of their only road-legal pad the DS Performance.

EBC have a lot of road legal pads, so I guess what the general impression is, is that most road legal pads can't cope with a Scooby braking heavy on track?

Thanks for advice!

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SpecB 09-04-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by georgehawkins27 (Post 248983)
So from what I can tell the best R90 EU road legal pad is probably the brembo ones? DS2500 aren't road legal and Ferodo don't seem to publish operating characteristics of their only road-legal pad the DS Performance.

EBC have a lot of road legal pads, so I guess what the general impression is, is that most road legal pads can't cope with a Scooby braking heavy on track?

Thanks for advice!

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Remember the reason a lot of the track focussed pads aren’t EU approved is that they are too good!



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Ginola 09-04-2019 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgehawkins27 (Post 248983)
So from what I can tell the best R90 EU road legal pad is probably the brembo ones? DS2500 aren't road legal and Ferodo don't seem to publish operating characteristics of their only road-legal pad the DS Performance.

EBC have a lot of road legal pads, so I guess what the general impression is, is that most road legal pads can't cope with a Scooby braking heavy on track?

Thanks for advice!

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In my experience EBC arn't good enough for the road, let alone track.

scotty 09-04-2019 02:49 PM

What about PF z rated pads .

Rdlangy1 09-04-2019 03:29 PM

knowing i am going to get lots of comments saying "you don't drive quick enough anyway! :lol:" can I throw in that I run Yellow Stuff, and they seemed fine at Brands and Lydden - although do wear quickly.

They also operate nicely on the roads and in normal driving situations.

Rdlangy1 09-04-2019 03:30 PM

oh and def give Alyn a call :ok:

scooby doo 09-04-2019 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 248986)
What about PF z rated pads .

Great pads , but What callipers do the wrx hatch use ?? Not sure if pfc come in anything but Brembo but don’t quote me

Ebc are ****e . I had a pad compound fall off it’s backing plate with less than 1000miles use , would of been lovley Ifthat happened on track !

Seanedg 09-04-2019 11:20 PM

200sx s14a (similar brake setup as subaru)

I've used Ferodo DS2500, back in the day, worked well.
I had tried EBC yellow stuff on my old caliper set up.
They where crap and I told EBC that and they said they had some complaints with the face coming away from the backing due to overheating of the bonding agent.

So I tried other pads but didn't get the same pedal feel I had from the yellows.

When I changed my brake set up to skyline R33's I tried the new age yellow stuff pads, same size pads as the wrx
And I can report good results; morning session at lydden hill then 2 years nurburgring 15 laps and around 5000 Road miles, and car was moted 2 weeks ago with them on.

I will replace with yellows and they have been good to my discs, with no scoring and low ware, Fronts are pagids and rears are from Alan.



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Ginola 12-04-2019 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 248986)
What about PF z rated pads .


They are good to a point, depends which z as they do z11, z08 etc they are all different compounds, Ian is still using 08 and likes them, I run 11 and 8's on the back of the Scoob with Brembos they have both fine,.. though I totally destroyed a set at Spa on the front a few years back.. apparently repeated 140mph to 50 in 100yards is not advisable... but in all seriousness I think that is more a limitation of the brembo caliper itself not releasing fast enough, replacing it was a big leap forward in breaking performance.

scooby doo 12-04-2019 06:53 PM

I didn’t even know there was different grades I just checked my box I have .11 in mine.

nikkinokkinoo 12-04-2019 09:30 PM

I had EBC - pony

Have Perf Friction now - awesome

I have PBS in the Civic and they are really very good and pretty cheap. Not sure if they do them for the Scoob though.

BIG"E" 12-04-2019 10:18 PM

Another vote for Performance Friction Ive used there pads and I also have Performance friction front discs too.

Alyn at ASP will have on the shelf various different options

asperformance 13-04-2019 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginola (Post 249025)
They are good to a point, depends which z as they do z11, z08 etc they are all different compounds, Ian is still using 08 and likes them, I run 11 and 8's on the back of the Scoob with Brembos they have both fine,.. though I totally destroyed a set at Spa on the front a few years back.. apparently repeated 140mph to 50 in 100yards is not advisable... but in all seriousness I think that is more a limitation of the brembo caliper itself not releasing fast enough, replacing it was a big leap forward in breaking performance.


as in "Highlander" - there can be only ONE Z-rated material from PFC which is a very capable fast road type material
the other materials that PFC offer are race type's and known purely by their 'code'

Scott.T 14-04-2019 10:09 PM

DS2500 for me for the last 10 years or so.
I did try performance friction on my Hawkeye but prefer DS2500 as a better alrounder.
PF seemed to need a bit more heat in them to work, whereas DS2500 the transition is less noticeable.
In a car thats more road than track DS were the best fit for me.

Ginola 16-04-2019 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asperformance (Post 249030)
as in "Highlander" - there can be only ONE Z-rated material from PFC which is a very capable fast road type material
the other materials that PFC offer are race type's and known purely by their 'code'


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