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Tyler 13-01-2012 09:25 PM

Easiest way to install gearbox on drive
 
What are your technique's for doing this on your drive at home i have done this 4 times before and struggled horribly... Think the last time i didnt take the wheels off so still had the drive sharfts in, which made life horrible. This was only because the car was on Ramps. Managed to do it in the end but it was horrible..

Crowman 13-01-2012 10:25 PM

Hi mate, did mine on the drive and will never do it again, just on axle stands, horrible job, not difficult at all, just S h I t t y
I took wheels off, removed shafts, exhaust , prop etc.
It's just the laying under the car with sod all room , then pulling the box off and onto chest, fook me it's heavy .

Tyler 14-01-2012 12:55 AM

Yeah i did it the first time i did it, but that was on my mates ramp at his work.. That was not to bad, then i did someone elses on the floor and dropped the box on me, and then i did it again for myself to fit a paddel clutch and hated it, then one last time to take the paddle clutch out as i hated it and that time was the absaloute worst as i find the lining up a absaloute nightmare!!

andy-m 14-01-2012 10:26 PM

done it once, will never do it again. Jaffa did my last gearbox change at a decent enough price that i'll never touch my grabox again !
seriously, you know how much hassle it is changing a box having done it before yourself, PM jaffa and get a price and a guarantee you'l think its worth paying him to do it rather than go thrpough the hassle of doin it again yourself !
and, you can watch how he does it in case at some point in the future your brain stops working properly and you decide to undertake a gearbox change yourself !

Tyler 16-01-2012 03:28 PM

Car is already on stands on my drive, box is split from engine, prop is out, just need to pull drive shafts out and drop box. (if only it was that easy... lol) Getting out is not the issue, its lining it back up which is the headache.

I would love to drop the car to Tone's but that would cost me a absaloute fortune as he is miles away from me. Plus i am broke..

Krissyb 16-01-2012 05:26 PM

It's easy what is everyone complaining about you just need tea and patience, remove anything that gets in the way rather than trying to undo bolts or nuts that are hard to get too. It can just be a pain wiggling it out, but with a bit of gentle persuasion she'll come out eventually.

andy-m 16-01-2012 08:05 PM

ok well as you already have it out, you need a trolley jack and 2 people.
the trolley jack goes under the box. 1 person lays under the car under, the drivers seat with feet towards the front. use 1 foot to move front troley jack forwards with hands on the back of the box.
second person lays other side of the box & does all the lining up & adjusting jack height.

only problem is if you are high up on axle stands, the trolley jack wont reach. i chucked a few planks of wood under mine, which helped, but gets in teh way a bit when you are trying to move around under there

Tyler 16-01-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Krissyb (Post 118117)
It's easy what is everyone complaining about you just need tea and patience, remove anything that gets in the way rather than trying to undo bolts or nuts that are hard to get too. It can just be a pain wiggling it out, but with a bit of gentle persuasion she'll come out eventually.

That be where i am goin wrong Krissy, its the Tea i am missing out on!! lol... Getting the box out is easy as pie, its putting it back in that is the nightmare for me even though i have done it 4 times (once on a ramp though), but everytime i did it,it was a nightmare and the least amount of time it has taken me is 6 hours.. YEP 6 DAMN HOURS... not good...

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Originally Posted by andy-m (Post 118148)
ok well as you already have it out, you need a trolley jack and 2 people.
the trolley jack goes under the box. 1 person lays under the car under, the drivers seat with feet towards the front. use 1 foot to move front troley jack forwards with hands on the back of the box.
second person lays other side of the box & does all the lining up & adjusting jack height.

only problem is if you are high up on axle stands, the trolley jack wont reach. i chucked a few planks of wood under mine, which helped, but gets in teh way a bit when you are trying to move around under there

Yeah my biggest prob is doing it on my own, dont like annoying people especially in the cold..3 people would be spot on 2 is enough, but just wish it was possible for me to do it by myself...

scoobyslayer 19-01-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyler (Post 117801)
Yeah i said it the first time i did it, but that was on my mates ramp at his work.. That was not to bad, then i did someone elses on the floor and dropped the box on me, and then i did it again for myself to fit a paddel clutch and hated it, then one last time to take the paddle clutch out as i hated it and that time was the absaloute worst as i find the lining up a absaloute nightmare!!

I have changed clutches from above without removing gearbox fully.

Tyler 25-01-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scoobyslayer (Post 118595)
I have changed clutches from above without removing gearbox fully.

Wish it was just the clutch i had to replace, my gearbox went bang.. :-(

munk 25-01-2012 05:10 PM

How much harder is it,if at all with a centre diff?? Just for future reference???:ok:

Tyler 25-01-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by munk (Post 119289)
How much harder is it,if at all with a centre diff?? Just for future reference???:ok:

The centre diff is connected to the back of the gearbox and if you take that off I can not see it making life much easier then with the diff connected. If I have understood your question correctly munk

munk 25-01-2012 06:19 PM

all i was meaning was that does having a centre diff make the removal and refittment process any longer or shorter,or neither??? over doing a box on impreza that doesnt run a dccd.....:oldman::yeah:

Tyler 26-01-2012 09:57 PM

I would prob say longer buddy... :D:ok:

andy-m 27-01-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by munk (Post 119296)
all i was meaning was that does having a centre diff make the removal and refittment process any longer or shorter,or neither??? over doing a box on impreza that doesnt run a dccd.....:oldman::yeah:

doesnt make a difference. all AWD impreas have a centre diff and the boxes are therefore the same size. the DCCD ones are just driver controlled centre diff's they both fit in the same part of the gearbox case which is the same size (On a classic at least). weight wise its about the same (Slightly heavier i would guess) but when you are trying to man handle it in to position, it doesnt make any difference, you still need to be built like Mr-T without the propper tools, i.e. ramps etc.

Tyler 27-01-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by andy-m (Post 119554)
you still need to be built like Mr-T without the propper tools, i.e. ramps etc.

:lol: I am far from being built like Mr T but i took the box out the other week by myself with the car on stands.....

andy-m 27-01-2012 02:48 PM

out is easier than getting it in though !!!
when are you planning to try n get the new one in ?

Tyler 27-01-2012 02:53 PM

Agreed mate but getting it out on your own is not that fun either, trust me.. Hopefully i will be trying this weekend, will have to see how it goes.

andy-m 27-01-2012 02:59 PM

i think your not too far from me ? so if you get stuck, i can lend a hand on sunday
will PM you my number.

i've also got no net at home atm so cant check forums till I get back to work monday/tuesday next week.

Tyler 27-01-2012 03:16 PM

Andy you are a absaloute Diamond, i would only need help placing it up there then i would be ok on the rest, top bloke though for the offer, i may call you Sunday.... :D

andy-m 30-01-2012 06:02 PM

didnt get a phone call so how did you get on?

Tyler 30-01-2012 09:33 PM

All in Andy didnt want to bother you, it went in beautifully.. Thsnk you though matey..

Where's Wolly??? lol

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/...0128-00218.jpg

andy-m 31-01-2012 12:20 PM

you're f'in mad doin it solo !!!
but well done anyways

BTW, is that a rachet spanner set on the rad? think I have the same one lol

2-jaffacake-tone 31-01-2012 01:25 PM

lmao @ that pic

Tyler 31-01-2012 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-m (Post 120001)
you're f'in mad doin it solo !!!
but well done anyways

BTW, is that a rachet spanner set on the rad? think I have the same one lol

Didnt do it alone, i placed the gearbox on the Jack and then by chance a mate turned up and jacked it for me.. then just got my dad to push against the engine whilst i bolted it together.. :-)

that rachet set is a godsend.. lol


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