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Bytes 23-12-2014 09:01 AM

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:shark: music and 'feed me, feed me now!" spring to mind :grin:

Great to see the updated look now with the bumper in place. Are you planning on adding a grille such as the zunsport? Liking the pipework mods too :doubleup:

seventune 10-02-2015 12:07 AM

Few more bits done since the last update.

Tyres needed replacing. This was a hard one actually. In the end I settled for the NS-2R's. 225/40/18. Given the reviews in both the dry and the wet, on and off the road for the money they worth a shot. People have said how they are better than the R888 in terms of longevity, grip and wet grip (most importantly on UK roads). That have been compared to the AD08 Yoko on a number of occasions and not come up too bad.

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I also think the fatter wall gives the car a more purposeful stance too.

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Next up was the pedal box. This is now in fully but I only have this pic. I do still need to make the heel plate to go over the cylinders.

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Where the mods have been made for the V mount intercooler I have welded in a larger brace bar at the bottom. This also gives more room for the fans on the rad.

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With the bumper back on

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Few interior bits on the go. I wanted to change the wheel and boss for OMP items. I love a nice quick release but given they are race parts they take a bit of getting in the car without have the steering wheel hitting you in the chest. With the pedals where they are the new further back seating position required a dish wheel. I opted for a bolted quick release over the welded type I have used before as they work better with the steering coloum controls. I'm in the process if making the boss to fit the spline on the coloum but a small spacer was also need to get the horn button in the wheel as the wheel sits flush on the racing boss.

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the spacer

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Will finish the other bit on the morning and the wheel mounted up.

I also wanted to put kill switches on the pumps, fans and ignition. I couldn't resist a push start either. I've ditched the double din stereo and utilized the lower space for the switch panel

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So close to starting her up now. Next couple of days hopefully.

Steve_PPP 10-02-2015 09:29 AM

Liking this a lot, look forward to seeing your future posts :doubleup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by seventune (Post 203469)
Tyres needed replacing. This was a hard one actually. In the end I settled for the NS-2R's. 225/40/18. Given the reviews in both the dry and the wet, on and off the road for the money they worth a shot. People have said how they are better than the R888 in terms of longevity, grip and wet grip (most importantly on UK roads). That have been compared to the AD08 Yoko on a number of occasions and not come up too bad.

Interested to get your opinions on them as I'm probably getting a set before heading to the Ring in May. Did you go for the 120 or 180 compound?

Ginola 10-02-2015 10:56 AM

Just been through this again :) really like the work, cant wait for the next installment, love the V-mount rad/intercooler (works for WRC!)

seventune 10-02-2015 11:48 AM

Cheers guys.

Got the steering in this morning. I'm going get a little boot to sit up being the new boss to cover the gap between the coloum and plastic covers. Now you may think way go to all the effort and not just buy and off the shelf adaptor. The answer is the distance. With the pedals being further back I bought a dished steering wheel to compensate. Then with the quick release mechanism it added a lot of length to the wheel assembly. I made this boss to make that all as short as possible. In doing saves about 2" which was perfect.

I cut the spline out of the stock wheel. The made an ally ring so that the two would be an interference fit. Then welded them front and back. This boss would then take the wheel hub.

Centre machined down

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new ring

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scotty 10-02-2015 01:42 PM

Love a bit of custom work as you can get a better finish looking forward to the next phase of updates .

seventune 10-02-2015 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP (Post 203474)
Liking this a lot, look forward to seeing your future posts :doubleup:

Interested to get your opinions on them as I'm probably getting a set before heading to the Ring in May. Did you go for the 120 or 180 compound?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginola (Post 203475)
Just been through this again :) really like the work, cant wait for the next installment, love the V-mount rad/intercooler (works for WRC!)


Thanks guys, next update should be start up :)

The tyres are the 180. Bit more ware in them hopefully. I'll let you know how I get on with them.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytes (Post 201427)
Great to see the updated look now with the bumper in place. Are you planning on adding a grille such as the zunsport? Liking the pipework mods too :doubleup:

cheers fella. To answer that question. No. No grill. I'm really not a fan of big mesh grills in the classics. looks a bit more purposeful without.


Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 203477)
Love a bit of custom work as you can get a better finish looking forward to the next phase of updates .

Thanks dude :)

bang. 13-02-2015 01:32 PM

woowww great project :five:

i would like to see one video of this superscooby :10:

bang. 13-02-2015 01:58 PM

that feeling you have with the pedals?
compared with oem

seventune 14-02-2015 07:12 AM

Thanks dude. It is a different feel on the pedal compared to OEM but not unpleasant. A big factor in that is getting the cylinder size correct.

C. J. 14-02-2015 08:27 AM

Even working out the correct cylinder size doesn't always work . Had someone work them out for us and went .7 front and back . Had to stamp on the brakes , changed the front to a .625 and awesomeness was found:)

seventune 24-02-2015 09:19 PM

Well............

Got the old girl running.

BUT its never as simple as that is it. After ordering the new seal and a couple of other bits off of RCM I got around to getting the beast running. As I wasn't 100% where to start looking given the injectors had a pulse signal. SO I pulled them out and ran them through the injector cleaner. Remade some of the earthing points on the chassis and engine. Re checked earths on the ECU and AEM unit along with power supplies. Changed the battery for a new larger item. Refitted it all and pressed the button. She tried so hard to fire it was agitating. So. Swapped the plugs from 8's to 6's. And turn the fuel pressure down on the FPR. Pressed the button again and she fired up a treat http://bbs.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Happy days.

Having had the car the fired it was time to replace the oil seal. Personally I find it quicker to pull the motor than drop the gearbox. Undo the bolts unplug the wiring harness and bosch, out. Anyway before that, oil out. Aweful lot of debris. Turns out the crank ate the rear thrust bearing. Long story short when the 2.1 engine let go the crank went off to a specialist to be analysed, checked and all that. It came back with the ok to be reused in the new build. Cranking the motor over and running it proved other wise.

Absolutely everything has been scrutinised at the end of which a new EJ257 crank/big end and main bearings has been ordered from RCM and should be with me in the next couple of days so I can rebuild the old girl again. Hopefully this time to a more positive out come.

On we go.....

SpecB 25-02-2015 05:47 AM

That's a bitch - any comeback on the engineering firm that checked the tolerances for you?

seventune 25-02-2015 12:18 PM

I'll have a chat with them and see what happens but im not going to go nuts at them. You can't do 100% maths test every day of the week.

seventune 26-02-2015 09:51 AM

Woohoo

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scotty 26-02-2015 11:08 AM

I hope that wasn't to expensive to buy .

seventune 26-02-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 203913)
I hope that wasn't to expensive to buy .

I wouldnt say it was cheap dude :boom: but very much needed .

scotty 26-02-2015 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seventune (Post 203917)
I wouldnt say it was cheap dude :boom: but very much needed .

If you can't be £250 for a brand new one then you got robbed :CUP:

seventune 26-02-2015 02:40 PM

Was considerably more than that dude. It's a genuine niterated ej257 crank.

Ginola 26-02-2015 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 203919)
If you can't be £250 for a brand new one then you got robbed :CUP:

that's the price of a half decent second hand one ;)

C. J. 26-02-2015 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginola (Post 203933)
that's the price of a half decent second hand one ;)

Unless you buy from the states ;)

seventune 26-02-2015 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginola (Post 203933)
that's the price of a half decent second hand one ;)

Yeah. There was no way after the damaged caused that I was going to buy a second one. That's a brand new niterated item. Hopefully that will be hidden away back in the cases where it belongs :D

scotty 27-02-2015 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginola (Post 203933)
that's the price of a half decent second hand one ;)

Not for me it's not a friend is selling me his brand new one for that price don't know where he got it from so I check how much they where and I had to buy it .

seventune 27-02-2015 01:14 AM

Don't blame you for that money dude. Nicely done :D

scotty 27-02-2015 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seventune (Post 203944)
Don't blame you for that money dude. Nicely done :D

Thanks don't know what I'm going to do with it yet .

seventune 27-02-2015 10:03 AM

Got to be a spare motor hasn't it?

Didn't get in as early as I'd hoped this morning to get on with the engine so I fitted the aero catches instead....

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seventune 28-02-2015 06:39 PM

Well bottom end back together. Pressing on to get the engine back in and running by the weekend.

I want my scoob back on the road.

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seventune 07-03-2015 04:07 PM

Several years later.....

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seventune 21-03-2015 07:31 AM

Well the motor is now 100% built and ready to go back in. I have been even more scrupulous with checking and re checking everything to avoid the crank issue happening again. There was no obvious cause for the crank mashing the rear face of the thrust bearings.

First big thing to change was the piston to head clearance. With the new crank the piston where 20 thou higher than previously. At lowest tilt they where .013" above deck and on full tilt at their highest .031". With the 1.5mm ( .059") head gasket there was no real room to allow for rod stretch. In the turbo bike we allow .040" rod stretch so I took some meet off the top of the pistons to gain the extra clearance.

Crank then the new nitrated crank got clearance, re clearance and clearanced again on both main and big ends.

End float was checked I don't know how many times which I just right ;D

There was one other concern that I had come across before. This invovled the hydraulic clutch bearing. I've seen it before where the spacer behind the bearing has been too thick and when the engine is installed the sits butt up against the clutch cover. Not only not having and air gap as it should but actually being forced up into the clutch cover and also taking up the end float in the crank and mashing thrust bearings. That also being a concern the heights where check over again and on both the engine and gearbox side and was all fine as I had hoped with the required 2.4mm air gap.

With every thing checked it ready to go back in. Plan is for Monday.

seventune 20-04-2015 03:26 PM

There are a couple of issues to report but it's a bit long winded on the phone so i will do that bit later on the lap top but in the mean time.....

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Still needs some adjusting is just sitting in there at the moment.

Rdlangy1 20-04-2015 03:29 PM

Just read through this and good read - amazing job you've done there, and be good to see it running again - a lot of time and effort gone into that :ok:

seventune 20-04-2015 05:04 PM

Yeah getting over the last hurdle and actually getting the car back on the road has been really hard. Crank issue initially. Then the electrical issue with the stock loom (will explain more when I get a chance).

Want to get a few bits on the body done this week. Then I can finish getting the last few mechanical bits sorted and we're there.

Ginola 20-04-2015 07:26 PM

Really really looking forward to seeing this beast in the flesh :) glad your finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel :)

seventune 20-04-2015 08:26 PM

Few more weeks hopefully then mapping for running in :D

seventune 03-05-2015 09:24 AM

So then. Electrical gremlins are a real pig. But ever cloud has a silver lining. As you know the car is fitted it an AlcaTek ECU. I have been trying to get them to talk to me about making some changes to the ecu for absolutely months. Eventually I decided to not have any changes made to the ecu and just buy a proper one buy in the mean time just get it mapped for the current mods. Anyway reinstalling the loom and engine this time has unearthed an underlying electrical issue. It's started with sensor ground wires carrying 8volt live feeds. Which I traced back into the loom then the ecu. Once that was sorted other singles appeared to be incorrect. The loom that had seen far better days before I had even got into looking for the faults. After finding bare wires, doggy taped up and crimped connections I was time to start fresh. Given the lack of contact and lack of support from AlcaTek I decided that if I was building a new loom it wouldn't be for that ecu. So I bought this instead

Nice Syvecs S6 :)

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Few other little bits got done whilst I was waiting for the Syvecs. Bonnet is now finished and ready for paint

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Finally got around to painting and fitting the STI 6 spoiler. I was hoping to paint the front bumper today but the weather is looking a bit bad.

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Also got all the water system back in the bay and thought I'd treat the turbo to a cozy blanket

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All the bits for the loom are ordered. Hopefully all be with me next week and I can look towards actually driving the old girl :)

Rdlangy1 03-05-2015 10:26 AM

that's one mean looking beast :ok:

Awesome work...

C. J. 03-05-2015 10:29 AM

Making the loom is not too bad , just take your time thinking about it 👍

seventune 04-05-2015 10:35 AM

Thanks guys :)

seventune 15-05-2015 09:01 PM

Started getting the power steering in.

Buried it in behind the front bumper on the drivers side. Its an electric MR2 pump. Will be interested to see how it works. I also found some grot under there so sorted that out too while I was there. need to add to the bracket and some extra support as its a heavy pump.

Grot:

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Pump:

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Grot fixed and pump in place (but not finished)

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seventune 17-05-2015 07:07 AM

So added some extra support to the power steering brace. It's now all ready for wiring. As it's sitting up in behind the front bumper I just mig'd it up a bit brashly. Does the job.

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So that ended up down here like this

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Now slight chance on the fueling front. I was going to run 8 injectors long term (still might) but in order to get a few more functions out of the Syvecs I have changed the 750cc RC injectors for some bigger Bosch units that I have 'borrowed' from the RX7 build. Just given how long I've had them I bought a refurb pack and gave the a bath

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Mid cleaning



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So onto the next job....


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