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scotty 14-04-2017 11:32 AM

DA polisher
 
Ok ive decided to look into buying one there is so many out there to choose from so need a bit of help i am a so called perfectionist when doing it by hand on the cars so i thought i would try the lazy man's tool of choice so any reccomendations would help i have the perfect car to practice on i.e the wifes beemer lol .

Rdlangy1 14-04-2017 01:07 PM

Meguiars DA's are pretty reasonable -

Also check here...

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish...prod_1797.html

Nice little kit and sensibly priced...

Ryan

The Handbrake 14-04-2017 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1 (Post 236098)
Meguiars DA's are pretty reasonable -

Also check here...

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish...prod_1797.html

Nice little kit and sensibly priced...

Ryan

+1 that's the same as ours too. Dave is out there using it now lol

lockheed 14-04-2017 02:06 PM

the abbreviation d.a means dual action and is associated with paint preparation , it is a sanding tool which spins and oscillates at the same time , it air powered mainly although electric ones are available . From 40 grit to 500 is for making flat and making a key for paint and 800 to 2000 is for sanding orange peel from new paint which is the same as wet sanding .The discs that you use for a"d.a" are called free cut

Mechanical polishers used with a cutting compounds are, I think what you need. these look similar to disc cutters but work at a much much lower speed .
usual suspects such as bosch , Makita , dewalt , festool, are hi end and come with speed adjustment (recommended)
other makes like titan ,evolution ,works, are all Sh@t
The heads of these tools are foam, stippled foam, and lambs wool type for final buffing

if your gonna do this I would recommend masking anything you don't want covered in compound or polish and use water spray to keep the compound wet to stop burning of the paint and keep the head moving all the time , finally stay away from sharp edges this will ruin the rotating pad . hope this helps

The Handbrake 14-04-2017 05:53 PM

A lot of people get an old bonnet from a scrapyard and practice on that.

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...splay.php?f=17 is a nice link Scott, Polished bliss have a lot of nice videos on you-tube and join detailers central on facebook.
Rupes is an awesome range but at a pricetag to match. The "Clean your Car" DA linked above is a good all-rounder for the weekend warriors :)

...Dave is still out there with the DA lol

Scott.T 14-04-2017 07:14 PM

I went with an earlier version of this Menzerna kit http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish.../prod_675.html

You can't go far wrong even with the Menzerna 400 cut.
You would do more damage working a small area by hand than working on 1/4 of a panel with the DA.
The problem with white is identifying the worst swirl areas as their alot harder to spot than on black. Even with a sun lamp.

Granby 14-04-2017 09:43 PM

I recently got this kit http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish...prod_1212.html haven't used it yet though

scotty 14-04-2017 09:52 PM

Thanks i take it you can use your own polishes , wax etc with the DA polisher .

Scott.T 15-04-2017 09:47 AM

I tend to stick with Menzerna for the cutting/polishing/DA work as their products come with all the technical data to back up their performance.

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/docs/TDS_HCC400.pdf

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/images...s_E_2pages.pdf

A number of the other popular detailing brands that also do cut/polish/compounds don't seem to provide this level of information. Which makes me think they haven't done the same level of R&D but just thrown together a formula.

Once I've done with the DA I'm then happy to open up my purchase/use to anything that gets good reviews.

I used the kit that came with the DA on my Black Leon FR, starting with the '500' (no longer available, so you have to use 400) then 2500 upto 4500.

There are a few images of what it sorted out here :
http://www.southeastscoobies.co.uk/v...highlight=leon

Paintwork didn't look too bad and clearly been wax'd by the SEAT dealer before I collected. Clay bar didn't lift anything much off the paint before setting the DA into action.
Not so good though when you shine the halogen on it.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...psffc2d95f.jpg[/URL]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps8754a872.jpg[/URL]

Very pleased with the results,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...psafd89099.jpg[/URL]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...psc5adf3fa.jpg[/URL]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...pse24b7cf6.jpg[/URL]
N/S wing also looked pretty good until Halogen was used, and highlighted this scratch plus another further forward.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps13c7cc9f.jpg[/URL]
A few minutes later :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps1ac14392.jpg[/URL]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps6e65ebc7.jpg[/URL]

scotty 15-04-2017 12:00 PM

That does look good finish is there a tecnique to using the DA i.e circular motion or left to right following the panel .

Scott.T 15-04-2017 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 236142)
That does look good finish is there a tecnique to using the DA i.e circular motion or left to right following the panel .

I normally work left to right on a slow pass with the DA set at about 2/3rds speed.
Up and down a bit but I find it easier to apply the small amount of pressure required left to right.

In deeper marks rock the edge of the pad across and directly into to imperfection. This rounds off the sharp edges of the mark/scratch and looses it without taking a large area down.

Rdlangy1 15-04-2017 12:15 PM

Left to right slow and small sections then back over up to down :ok:

NL03Scooby 15-04-2017 12:15 PM

DA polisher
 
Like Scott and also based on Ryan's recommendations I have stuck with Menzerna products.

You don't have to be super specific with how you polish the panels, just prepared, organised and light handed, and don't use more product then you need too.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ed26a22dfe.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b116a646af.jpg

scotty 15-04-2017 12:30 PM

Cheers same technique i use on the r but by hand and cheers Rob for posting that nice shinny ass:-D dont miss the car much like :cry:

scotty 15-04-2017 12:47 PM

During each phase from cutting to polishing do you use a soft plush towel to buff off the residue and is it per panel at a time as thats the process i use when i do the r .

1. Applicator and compoud microfiber towel buff
2. Applicator and polish microfiber towel buff
3. Applicator and sealent/wax microfiber towel buff
4. Soft plush towel for supershine

Ginola 15-04-2017 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 236147)
During each phase from cutting to polishing do you use a soft plush towel to buff off the residue and is it per panel at a time as thats the process i use when i do the r .

1. Applicator and compoud microfiber towel buff
2. Applicator and polish microfiber towel buff
3. Applicator and sealent/wax microfiber towel buff
4. Soft plush towel for supershine

Something like that, Correct Pad and very soft plush towels for each stage as you don't want to re-introduce swirls/marring while buffing.

Some folks like to use a panel wipe between stages (depending on the products your using)

Ginola 15-04-2017 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott.T (Post 236126)
I tend to stick with Menzerna for the cutting/polishing/DA work as their products come with all the technical data to back up their performance.

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/docs/TDS_HCC400.pdf

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/images...s_E_2pages.pdf

A number of the other popular detailing brands that also do cut/polish/compounds don't seem to provide this level of information. Which makes me think they haven't done the same level of R&D but just thrown together a formula.

Once I've done with the DA I'm then happy to open up my purchase/use to anything that gets good reviews.

I used the kit that came with the DA on my Black Leon FR, starting with the '500' (no longer available, so you have to use 400) then 2500 upto 4500.

There are a few images of what it sorted out here :
http://www.southeastscoobies.co.uk/v...highlight=leon

Paintwork didn't look too bad and clearly been wax'd by the SEAT dealer before I collected. Clay bar didn't lift anything much off the paint before setting the DA into action.
Not so good though when you shine the halogen on it.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...psffc2d95f.jpg[/URL]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps8754a872.jpg[/URL]

Very pleased with the results,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...psafd89099.jpg[/URL]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...psc5adf3fa.jpg[/URL]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...pse24b7cf6.jpg[/URL]
N/S wing also looked pretty good until Halogen was used, and highlighted this scratch plus another further forward.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps13c7cc9f.jpg[/URL]
A few minutes later :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps1ac14392.jpg[/URL]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps6e65ebc7.jpg[/URL]

What sunlamp/Halogen do you use Scott?

Granby 15-04-2017 03:03 PM

Plenty of guides to using a DA on youtube, well worth a few hours watching

Scott.T 15-04-2017 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginola (Post 236153)
What sunlamp/Halogen do you use Scott?

Ron's top tip of the value B&Q 12V drill for about £20 Remove the check/motor and replace with a 12v halogen.


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