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MrsTrishScooby 26-05-2011 09:15 PM

Any suggestions for my turbo ??
 
Right, when I bought my wagon several weeks ago it had been stored for monthes as the guy said it has puffed a bit of blue smoke so he didnt wanna make it worse so chucked it in the garage.
Its an 18g turbo bought from the states. We got it home and stripped it and found oil in the intercooler.
We won a standard turbo for £20 off ebay but after putting that on we have found the seals have gone on that too :wife:
Does anyone know of anywhere that I can send the 18g off to have it repaired properly??Fairly local to Harlow Essex, dont mind traveling within reason.

Just want my car sorted now :cry:

centurion73 26-05-2011 09:30 PM

Trish, you will get an answer but a lot of the members are away at present or going (the ring) so hang in there.. someone on here will be able to point you in right direction

Sandman 26-05-2011 10:16 PM

hi, you need to know what 18g it is td05?? or whatever.. you can buy service kits for most turbos for between £20-£40 ish.

once you have found out what turbo it is, then it may make things a bit simpler.
if you need advice, send Jaffa a message, he has helped me out no end in the past, he may take a while to respond, as he is a very busy guy, but his knowlege is emense.

as for somewhere near you, Try TR Racing...
TR RacingWorkshop:
Great Dunmow, Essex
Tel: 01371 878 912

they specialise in skylines, but im sure they can do turbo rebuilds, and i know they are well respected in the jap car community

Scott.T 26-05-2011 10:21 PM

Assuming it's a cheap ebay special turbo's from the usa of china or thaiwan origin, they are just tat..cheap copies with very little quality control.

You may get kucky and get a good one but there are more bad than good.
Some so called TD05-18G have the actuator mounting too far round on the compresssor housing which then requires a flexi oil feed pipe rather then the standard OE hard pipe.

Not a great expense but a big inconvenience if you were hoping to fit it and drive off in a day, only to find you now need to order a flexi oil feed from elsewhere.

No-one will rebuild the turbo from the USA as the quility is ****e and any reputable comapny will be able to tell that very quickly. The likes of turbo dynamics or turbo technics wouldjust advise you bin it.

the cost to refurb the other turbo would also be alot of money if you use OE spec parts.

The best bet is to keep a look out for a TD or VF range going cheap ona forum that you know is coming of a running car for upgrade purposes only.

Ultimatley buy a new one from a good tuner, but depending on what you go for will cost £750 - £1800 plus remapping if you go bigger.

Even if the car is mapped for the 18G I would seriously consider getting it remapped even if another 18G is fitted as the cheap ebay US unit is likley to flow very different to a quality one.

Scott.T 26-05-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandman (Post 89000)
hi, you need to know what 18g it is td05?? or whatever.. you can buy service kits for most turbos for between £20-£40 ish.

once you have found out what turbo it is, then it may make things a bit simpler.
if you need advice, send Jaffa a message, he has helped me out no end in the past, he may take a while to respond, as he is a very busy guy, but his knowlege is emense.

as for somewhere near you, Try TR Racing...
TR RacingWorkshop:
Great Dunmow, Essex
Tel: 01371 878 912

they specialise in skylines, but im sure they can do turbo rebuilds, and i know they are well respected in the jap car community


If it's a genuine 18G core with a quality compressor then the rebuild kit will work. but I doubt it is.
But if it's genuine then I doubt very much it failed, as the TD's are pretty bullet proof.

The problem with the cheap units is quality control and tolerances. They can be so far out that they perform badly with regard to airflow and compressing the air and/or the seals wear really quickly due to poor tolerance.

jura11 26-05-2011 11:03 PM

I've use just Turbo Dynamics or Turbo Developments(this company is located Brentford TW8 9NA and here is tel.number 020 8560 3927)

About the eBay turbos,its lucky draw,some make power and are reliable,some just blown after 200 miles and don't make any power.Few people brought these turbos and is good thread on Nasioc about the eBay turbos




Jura

Sandman 26-05-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer (Post 89004)
If it's a genuine 18G core with a quality compressor then the rebuild kit will work. but I doubt it is.
But if it's genuine then I doubt very much it failed, as the TD's are pretty bullet proof.

The problem with the cheap units is quality control and tolerances. They can be so far out that they perform badly with regard to airflow and compressing the air and/or the seals wear really quickly due to poor tolerance.

i do agree about the ebay "quality" ones, but the std one could be salvagable, and in this day and age, maybe worth the service kit.

MrsTrishScooby 27-05-2011 10:36 AM

Thanks for your replys, the guy reckoned he paid a lot for the td05 18g but nothing to back this up. He also said this was rated to 450bhp
Just want to get it running for now and once its all running ok then can start uprating things.

jura11 27-05-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsTrishScooby (Post 89049)
Thanks for your replys, the guy reckoned he paid a lot for the td05 18g but nothing to back this up. He also said this was rated to 450bhp
Just want to get it running for now and once its all running ok then can start uprating things.

18G is rated somewhere at 360-370bhp(i've seen few make 380bhp)

Good luck matey with this..


Jura

centurion73 27-05-2011 02:45 PM

just spoke to my mate who works on subaru's etc, he told me to give you his number 01483 277352 ask for chris.. he help out

RobEvo5 27-05-2011 05:09 PM

Got 2 standard TD04's one being very low mileage from a trusted source.

The Low mileage one I would sell for £40 if any use to you.

MrsTrishScooby 27-05-2011 09:37 PM

Jura, the ecu has an eprom chip too which APPARENTLY is rated to 450 bhp. I would like to just get the car running now without the smoke, the original plan was to get the 18g proffesionally redone but am wondering if this will be worthwhile now if it is dodgy copy.
Mark, will call Chris in the morning and have emailed you mate

MrsTrishScooby 27-05-2011 09:38 PM

Rob can you inbox me your details mate

jura11 27-05-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsTrishScooby (Post 89105)
Jura, the ecu has an eprom chip too which APPARENTLY is rated to 450 bhp. I would like to just get the car running now without the smoke, the original plan was to get the 18g proffesionally redone but am wondering if this will be worthwhile now if it is dodgy copy.
Mark, will call Chris in the morning and have emailed you mate

No such as EPROM chip is out there which is rated to 450bhp,for this rated power you are need mappable ECU like ESL,SimTek,Syvecs..

I think you are been scammed matey,that's the truth,really sorry/shame to see Subaru virgins/first owners been scammed:cry:.

At first visit trustworthy garage/Subaru Specialist which will tell you what you have and what you don't have fitted.



Jura

RobEvo5 27-05-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsTrishScooby (Post 89106)
Rob can you inbox me your details mate

YHPM

MrsTrishScooby 27-05-2011 09:59 PM

Thanks mate, think thats the plan once i can sort this turbo. Least Ive learnt my lesson now, even if it was the hard way

centurion73 28-05-2011 12:14 AM

Glad to see all sorted, I got you message you contact Rob (he's a good fellow) ... you be ok with that part

Scott.T 28-05-2011 09:13 AM

What year are we talking here. If pre96 the standard injectors are only good for 320max. even if chipped the map sensor cannot control boost above 1.2 bar, plus a host of other restrictions. ESL live board/chip can configure a new map sensor but doubt its got that.

Sandman 28-05-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer (Post 89138)
What year are we talking here. If pre96 the standard injectors are only good for 320max. even if chipped the map sensor cannot control boost above 1.2 bar, plus a host of other restrictions. ESL live board/chip can configure a new map sensor but doubt its got that.

i think in an earlier post mrs trish says she has a 95 wagon, dont know if its a UK or a JDM

sounds like the ECU needs removing and seeing whats inside,

we have a Polar Performance chip in our ECU, and will boost to a max of 1.1bar and give about 300hp tops, we have been told that thats as far as we should go on a 95 JDM WRX internals, and even then, we need to change the injectors to 440's, and possibly fit an FCD....

MrsTrishScooby 28-05-2011 11:37 AM

hiya its a 95 import

Scott.T 28-05-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandman (Post 89153)
We have a Polar Performance chip in our ECU, and will boost to a max of 1.1bar and give about 300hp tops..

LOL thats one of mine from when i used to map and trade as polar performance.

Sandman 29-05-2011 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer (Post 89196)
LOL thats one of mine from when i used to map and trade as polar performance.

lol, i know where to come then when i need help...lol


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