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DamonHill 08-12-2009 07:44 PM

Problem dog..................not!
 
Has anyone else seen the news tonight on South-Today ? If there's anything that gets my goat in the media its a biased view on a subject that the do- gooders and ban it brigade can jump on the bandwagon to get noticed. According to the program it is stated that the Staffordshire Bull terrier is a problem dog because it bites and the animal rescue centres are over run with them. Ask anyone who has had a dog for more than 5 minutes that just like a child a dog is a lifetime commitment and has to be raised in an appropriate manor, taught right from wrong and integrated in to the human beings world we all live in. Why is it they never state this. I have a 5yr old and a 17 yr old daughter neither of which have been bitten or have limbs missing. The most common dog to get bitten by is a Labrador........why? because they are the most common dog, ask any vet. The staffy is one of the best dogs in a family environment. Proof of this is my Mckenzie (PAIGNTONS PRIDE) Mack for short, 8yrs old next month. Next to him is Roxy my 5 month old Rottweiler who has passed her basic puppy training and now in to her Bronze Kennel Club good citizen award. If you buy a large and strong breed puppy then get it trained, this costs me less per week than it does to feed her. You wouldn't skip potty training your child so why bring up a poorly trained and undisiplined dog. Try blaming the owners not the breed!!!!!:kickbutt::kickbutt::kickbutt::rant:

Ok rant over thank-you for reading. So heres a pick of my little boy and girl.



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Hongkongfooi 08-12-2009 08:04 PM

Agreed, its down to parenting/owning an animal correctly, although like some children some dogs have a pre disposion to tantrums/violence but thats not aimed at any one particular breed of course.

Nice pups by the way.

MrX??? 08-12-2009 08:06 PM

:agreed:

We have 1 American Akita and 1 Japanese Akita, neither of them have ever mauled a bear, neither of them have ever won a fight and neither of them have made any attempt to attack anything other than the odd ham bone:brickwall: Although most people would think we were out every weekend tracking and killing bear's or dog fighting because they listen to the 'news' reports.

People instantly take a dislike to them, when you tell them 'NO' they are not husky's they are Akita's:boom: Yes they are big dogs, yes they are strong dogs but in the right hands they become amazing family members. If you research the bread before you get one, you know exactly what your getting, something we done extensively. We have not been disappointed.

Our old neighbours had two of the nicest staffies you could ever meet, so it always makes me laugh when you read or see these 'unbiased' views. Reporting nowadays is so biased its un-real. It all depends on the bread involved in any dog related incident, that decides if it becomes news or not.

Lovely looking dogs:doubleup:

DamonHill 08-12-2009 08:10 PM

you got to watch them ham bones especialy the ones carrying AK 47's:-D

Scott.T 08-12-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DamonHill (Post 30279)
you got to watch them ham bones especialy the ones carrying AK 47's:-D

Agree with all of the above, the trouble is the Labrador is more likely to be in a 'good middle classed family envrionment', where as a high percentage of the bull, pit, staff or whatever cross terrier breeds end up in a poor environment as a trophy dog or are trained to the same IQ level as the owner. Hence why they get the bad reputation.

Responsible citizens should only be allowed to keep dog's and should go on a dog training & obedience class by law.
Just like responsible citizens should only be allowed to breed.....don't get me started on that one.

MrX??? 08-12-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DamonHill (Post 30279)
you got to watch them ham bones especialy the ones carrying AK 47's:-D

You should wrap some 'jumbones' up for christmas and put them under your tree:nod:

Both the dogs now sleep with there noses facing the tree:doubleup:

I'm wondering what time it will be during the night that we hear the tree go over:grin:

DamonHill 08-12-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer (Post 30283)
Agree with all of the above, the trouble is the Labrador is more likely to be in a 'good middle classed family envrionment', where as a high percentage of the bull, pit, staff or whatever cross terrier breeds end up in a poor environment as a trophy dog or are trained to the same IQ level as the owner. Hence why they get the bad reputation.

Responsible citizens should only be allowed to keep dog's and should go on a dog training & obedience class by law.
Just like responsible citizens should only be allowed to breed.....don't get me started on that one.

Might have to trade my Barbour coat, Barmah hat and Timberlands for a baseball cap, 15lb of gold chain and a pair of undone nikes. Cant remember that far back but yes your right. The FAMILY we got the Rottie from would not let the typical Trophy dog owner/single bloke have one of the pups and insisted they only went to families.

Cath 08-12-2009 08:50 PM

:agreed: totally, it's not the dogs fault, it's all down to the owners

Kei Man 08-12-2009 09:22 PM

:10::10::10::10::agreed::agreed:
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Originally Posted by Cath (Post 30288)
:agreed: totally, it's not the dogs fault, it's all down to the owners

Big Dogs , Little dogs, all intelligent animals- it's the owners that sometimes need training

lady-turbo-wrx 08-12-2009 10:23 PM

i have 2 of them Devil Dogs
 
we have 2 staffs a male 11years female 18 months,and would say although very lively dogs there 100% with kids,but thats because there part of the family muched loved by us all..niether have even grumbled at the kids even when actualy being fell on,they just get up,an look at you as if it were there fault..

i would fear the jack russel more,as its that breed that has bitten 2 of my kids and my sister.. but agree with cath its not the dogs its the owners...

The problem is,a lot of young boys own the so called bad dogs,and teach them to act badly,giving the staff an many other breeds a very bad name...

RobEvo5 09-12-2009 09:44 AM

There is allot to be said for the breeding and ownership of a pet in terms of how that reflects there temprement, and agreed a bit unfair to pigeon hole a particular breed. But there are distinct different characteristics between the various breeds of dogs IMO.

I would trust my Labrador implicitly. The kids in the past have jumped on her, poked her eyes, pulled her ears, gone for horse rides on her, and even taken a leg bone of lamb away from her mid eating, and the worst she would do would be to get up and walk away. (Note to RSPCA I don't condone these actions but kids will be kids and you can't always be there to stop it).

Another breed I can't fault is the Boxer. Brother had one and same again soft as marshmellows despite the tough exterior.

I can't honestly say the same for some other breeds and dogs I know who are equally loved and have been trained. Lovely dogs and placid in a normal inviroment, but would doubt it if the boundries were pushed to the extreme.

AndyWRX 09-12-2009 08:39 PM

i agree with everyone on here its how the dog is brought up and looked after that makes the difference not all dogs go round biteing people just for the fun of it but like most things everyones tared with the same brush

Cath 09-12-2009 11:03 PM

My daughter was bitten on the face by a lab x collie when she was 6yrs old but it was an accident.
She just got in between 2 dogs that were play fighting.
He knew he had done wrong soon as it happened.
I know the dog and the owner very well, so accidents do happen.
Luckly for Shannon, she got minimal scaring but it did stop her for a while but not for long :angst:


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