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airstrikes will go ahead i think but if it was me i would vote no

there is no 70 thou force of troops to battle isis with , its fictional and based on figures of troops fighting assad

how can we go into a fresh arena of war saying we eventually aim to replace a regime that is fully backed by russia - it cant end well

unfortunately in these areas we dont understand the culture or local history - iraq is a prime example of us creating a power vacuum and wasting so many lives only to withdraw and allow gaddafi,s/hussein,s troops to reform under the isis banner

unbelievable on the news today government ministers still advocating war for precision strikes on terrorist training camps - Really do they expect us to believe isis have nice neat little training grounds with black flags flying where they all accumulate to discuss bombs over their sheesha pipe ?

i dont understand why turkey as a nato member isnt being forced to close the porous border there and thats ignoring the downing of the russian plane and the supplying arms and buying oil from isis etc

turkey is key because they could truce with the kurds and release the kurds to fight isis but its more likely the way turkey is headed it will be the next part of the area to get infected by isis (isit)

dont forget two years ago all these arguments were taken to parliament to bomb assad - now look whats gonna happen its sheer lunacy

either turkey comes inline or its gonna get real messy real fast with no hope of a positive outcome

a full plan is needed including boots on the ground to eradicate as many of the is vermin as possible but history still tells us it wont fix anything

its basically a continuation of the holy wars imo

no chance of any success unless our side accepts assad has to stay ( better the devil you know) and the turks play ball as any other option just brings us into direct conflict with the russkies and putin has an axe to grind re the downed fighter and russian leaders historically arent backwards about ordering thousands of their troops into battle to face a certain death and the worry is if nato butts against russia it will quickly expand to two fronts ie ukraine and baltic area

very worrying times atm but sending four or five bombers to syria based on rerolled rhetoric and misinformation isnt even going to be a sticking plaster to that situation

and ps - close the frickin borders already before all our cities look like raqqa