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Originally Posted by worzel
Rob has all of the following 4 cars (is there much Rob hasn't had though  ) and I would like to see robs comparisons in what I would call their niches.
Scooby V Evo
M3 V RS4
IMHO these are the comparisons that count.
Over to you again Rob. |
Have to say the perfect scenario is to have both for the reasons you describe. There are times when I find turbo power tiresome, and its soooo refreshing to have instant power on tap. I have started to get into the habit of turning on sport mode instantly every time I get in the car, and have to say it does make a nice difference to the feel of the car, with much more feel to the throttle.
The raspy sound of the M3 is a marmite sound. But I actually love it, and it’s a very addictive sound coupled with the straight 6 engine roar. So no complaints in the sound department from me.
Performance can't be knocked either, and I'm sure if I put it along side some quick scoobs both off the line, rolling and autobahn blasts it would not disappoint. The linear power delivery is slightly deceptive but no mistaking its quick and that's without looking at the speedo.
They are chalk and cheese cars and as said its difficult to compare. Performance aside, they both offer very different experiences depending on what mood you’re in.
If you want some comfort, build, reliability, and still have performance without being tarnished as a chav by some, but arrogant yuppy nob head by others then the M3 ticks the box.
But if you want raw, nimble power, do most of your driving off motorways, like to tinker with cars and modify, and couldn’t give a flying feck as to what others think of you then the scoob ticks the box.
Hence 2 very different cars offering 2 very different experiences that goes further than just comparing performance and handling.
Scoob V's Evo........
Scoob every time for me, but if I was into track days or drove like I’ve stolen the car most of the time then it would have to be the Evo. The electronics on the EVO is something that has to be experienced to be appreciated. But driven to the point that it’s all starts to work on UK roads means you will be pooping your pants long before you can experience it. The EVO really has to be driven to the point the car is starting to let go, and then at this point you have to make sure your don't back off, just keep with it and then it’s truly amazing. The sacrifice to this thou is that it’s a harsh car to live with day to day when you are just merely blipping about.
Despite this they are very similar cars and I still look at both of them as JAP turbo nutter rice tin cars, however no matter what generation the EVO they always demand a much bigger price tag for what I consider to be a similar car just a different badge, and for this reason alone I will always opt for a scoob. The Scoob is the more affordable car that tends to attract a wide audience because of it, which could be seen as a negative or a positive. For me it’s a positive, as all walks of life and age own scoobs. From my experience, for the EVO boys it seems to be more about how much money they can/have spent on their car. The community is much bigger and friendly in the world of scoobs IMO. Parts, spares and interchangeable parts at a more affordable price are more available on the scoob as well IMO.
I also think the later EVO’s all look more of less the same whether it be a EVO7,8or 9. But at least Subaru made some effort to change the style of scoobs throughout the generations, and the Hawkeye for me is a far more modern car than say and EVO8 or 9. 2006 Hawkeye STI circa 12K, 2006 EVO9 depending on derivative circa 18K
I’d always have both and enjoy both, but apart from AYC the scoob wins on every other level.
E46 M3 V’s RS4.
The M3 can be described as a sports tourer, but the RS4 really is a sports tourer and far more so than the M3. For Lazy and very quick driving, especially on motorways the RS4 is phenomenal the torque the 2.7 twin turbo gives is immense, but the RS4 feels even heavier than the M3, and have more give in the suspension, and the rev range is fairly small, and driven in anger you wished you have more revs to play with. The M3 is definitely a more focussed and involving car than the RS4. And I much prefer the M3 out of the 2. Interior and cabin space on the M3 is a nicer and a more modern place to be as well IMO.