Omg now the two admins are in on it, bloody conspiracy. I am not having a go but the two of you have only done 1 lap of the Ring. Not really enough to make a judgment. Spa sounds fantastic & when i do it then i can compare. Mike your right about people falling off the Ring & the bus. This to me just adds up to the hype that makes the Ring so bloody dangerous. If it was easy then we would not have to leave England to find these difficult tracks Just my opinion chaps don't ban me.