I make myself sound like a pratt sorry. I am only up for this door to door stuff if the other driver is.The Ring was great 4 years ago when i first went & still is. If & only if you can get out on the Ring ahead of others or you can find a good gap in the traffic you can then go for it. Its obvious that your not going to get anywhere near a good time with heavy traffic about. Gary there is only 6 corners at Brands Indy so yes i got bored. As you know the GP is much better & would have kept my attention longer. Have i managed to back peddle enough now? Time attack or the AAA series i just don't have the funds for i work for the N.H.S. This is only my opinion dont