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25-11-2009, 05:28 PM
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Verdict on 20% Meths
Had my first opportunity of seeing what the 20% Meths felt like this morning as I had a site meeting in Basildon and decided to take the P1.
I'm obviously not talking Track Day driving as the roads were occupied but I had the odd opportunity of getting in the boost range and there was a slight increase in performance and it felt more responsive however not heaps more. I was shifting really early at 5500 due to noise levels that seemed to be distracting other motorists, but an increase of acceleration was evident. On the return trip I had about about half a mile of empty lane in front of me so leaving it in 6th I slowly built up and at exactly 4 grand (105mph) I floored it. First thing I noticed out the corner of my left eye was a red light on the Defi Turbo boost gauge (which never normally happens). The turbo is set at 2.1 bar and this proved the Meths made a difference as it shot past that causing the red light, so I lifted off power. Not sure what bar it was because the needle went as far as it could and there is no reading at that point. (may need a gauge with readings up to 3.0. It proved a waste of time really so I am looking forward to getting it on the next track day, hopefully before xmas. The Launch Control is totally mad and very advisable to you guys. I can test this properly at the next track day too. I tried it last week at home but the Mrs became slightly concerned when I nearly set fire to the front garden. I believe I upset a neighbour too, as she has mentioned to someone that her dog hadn't left it's kennel since the Launch Control test four days ago, so I will have to wait until I am at the track before I can use it properly and I will let you know. 
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25-11-2009, 05:39 PM
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I like the bit about the dog Ha! Ha!
 Your car must be MAD 
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26-11-2009, 08:31 AM
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Sounds absolutely awesome mate.
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26-11-2009, 10:27 PM
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£ 140.00 for 205 Lts at the mo delivered next day with a free dispenser ! My friend followed me for about 20 miles the other day. No reason other than he loved the smell 
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27-11-2009, 01:08 AM
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 ,yeah,it does smell lush.The thing that worries me is 'Anger' was telling me that it seperates in the tank in a few days so really you need to end your journey with an empty tank. He seems to manage it ok,and i am hungry for power,just a little worried about the possibility of lump damage due to seperation. On another note,Anger showed me a pic of your car on surreyscoobies yesterday,as i was wondering where to put my number plate. We share the same splitter and it looks really good on your car,so have gone down this route rather than the square evo style.....nice 1..... 
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Last edited by Ratboy; 27-11-2009 at 01:12 AM.
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27-11-2009, 08:48 AM
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27-11-2009, 09:48 AM
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That shouldn't be too much of a problem Rat as Olly mentioned to me that I just need to make sure there is at least 20% Meths to be on the safe side when running in Map 2. If there is 25% Meths that will be ok. It's ok to run with Meths in the tank if I have it on "Map 1" which is the map for V Power. The danger is having "Map 2" selected when there is no Meths in the fuel system. So I will run until the tank is virtually empty then fill with V Power and select Map 1. I am not suggesting that Anger is wrong, but I have not heard anything relating to fuel separation. I would have assumed that if Matt/Olly thought it would prove an issue they would have told me when considering how much I have spent on the motor.
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27-11-2009, 06:19 PM
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Interesting......yep,understand what you mean about the map order.
If theres one thing ive learnt about these cars,its that the fuel guage under reads the amount of fuel.....according to my book the guages arnt 'linier' and states that empty is around quater full,quarter is half and so on. I can well believe this because in my old WRX that had the old 50L tank,it stayed on full on the guage for ages,then dropped. Also even when it was on less than empty i could never fit more than 40 L in the tank. But as you say,if you do the map order correctly,it should be no probs. Does it run a little rich if there is more than meth dregs left of V power map? Have you got some spec on your car on here (ie projects thread) Mines a built lump too and would be interested in what you've done. Cheers dude..... 
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27-11-2009, 07:07 PM
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Info comes from Steve SMG and i think he knows abit about tuned Subarus
Everyday car no problems, but with cars like mine that sit still for most of the month, im not taking any chances 
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27-11-2009, 07:53 PM
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I can understand that Anger. I have heard Methanol is a lot more corrosive than pump. Won't argue with SMG
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27-11-2009, 07:56 PM
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I just want mine back on the road now.... missing it big time, got a big drum of meth and nothing to stick it in lol
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27-11-2009, 07:59 PM
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Been waiting 4 months now....just 1-2 months to go now....
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27-11-2009, 08:04 PM
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No running rich issues Rat. The M800 takes care of that. I'll cut a long story short and this is the full spec list from start to current (in order). RCM 400 fitting kit Hybrid Garret RCM400 TURBO Turbo 90 degree fitting kit Vaccum Hose Turbo Oil drain hose Turbo hose pinch clip Turbo water drain hose Turbo downpipe gasket SX fuel Pressure regulator SX FPR fitting kit Uprated fuel pump 850cc Fuel Injectors R.C.M. 3 inch Stainless Steel Open Neck Downpipe R.C.M. 3 inch Stainless Steel Centre Exhaust section R.C.M. 3 inch Stainless Steel Rear Silencer R.C.M. Air Induction System Exhaust fitting kit RCM Exhaust Manifold 3 inch Exhaust Gasket x 2 RCM 76mm Induction Pipe Inlet Hose Manifold fitting kit RCM Oil catch tank RCM Oil catch tank fitting kit RCM Air Induction kit Bosch Fuel Filter Samco Hoses 3 Port Boost control solenoid Uprated spark plugs Lambda Sensor Hose finisher Red Half Moon Seal Subaru Crank assembly Crankshaft & Flywheel balance Uprated Thermostat RCM Lightweight Flywheel AP Racing Clutch kit Smooth Idler Water Pump Assembly Toothed Idler Timing Belt Tensioner bracker Tensioner seal Tensioner Pulley Head ream 14mm RCM Titanium Retainers Bucket shims Inner timing belt cover LH Inner Cambelt cover RH RCM Vernier Timing Belt Pullys Timing Belt Time Belt Tensioner RCM Manifold Manifild fitting kit Rocker Cover Gasket LH Rocker Cover Gasket RH Spark Plug Gasket RCM Alloy Pulley kit Sti Engine Mount RH STi Engine Mount LH Modified Gearbox mount Saddle & Tie set Locking Wheelnut set Castrol Syntrax BOA90LS Rear Diff Oil Front Number Plate RCM Fuel rail kit Fog Lamp cover LH Fog Lamp cover RH P1 Fog light stickers P1 Fog light stickers (Subaru) Fog Lamp Paint (Sonic Blue) Battery Battery clamp rods Battery clamp nuts RCM Battery Clamp Subaru AC Compressor Exchange RCM 80mm Induction Trumpet K & N Filter assembly Hose clamps Closed Deck Block Assembly WRC 14/12mm head stud kit WCR 14mm stud conversion Hone bore clearance Block Face skim 14mm head dowels Engine Gaskit kit ACL Race main bearing Subaru Version 9 big end bearing set Big Wing Sump Big wing sump modification RCM modified Oil Pump Double valve spring kit Double valve spring spacers Nitrided Version 9 Crankcase assembly Half moon seal RCM Omega forged high compression pistons Piston Ring set RCM upgraded H section conrod Turbo downpipe gasket RCM modified Oil pump Cylinder head assembly RHS Cylinder head assembly LHS RCM Port & Polish RCM WRC Nimonic exhaust valves RCM WRC Inlet valve Inlet manifold gasket RCM thermal spacer Oil cooler modine Oil filter Sump Washer Version 9 Subaru big end bearing set RCM 5 Speed flywheel AP Racing clutch kit Defi Oil Temperature Gauge 60mm (white) Defi Oil Pressure gauge 60mm (white) Defi Turbo Boost gauge 60mm (white) RCM gauge pod Defi control unit 2 Block Adaptor Motec cable Motec M800 ECU Motec Single Lambda support Motec Lambda Adaptor Motec Lambda Loom Motec Bosch Lambda Sensor Motec 4 bar map sensor Motec Air Temperature sensor plug Motec Temperature sensor Motec Antilag Feature Motec Can Adaptor Mapping session for large project Motec Anti Lag toggle switch APS 725(R series) Front Mounted Intercooler Intercooler mounting bobbin Intercooler pipework polish Bumper Beam reinforcement Bumper Beam Powder coat Subaru Radiator Assembly Sti Rad Cap Radiator Hose Clamp Samco Top & Bottom Rad hose kit Radiator bracket (LH) RCM cool panel guide Radiator Bracket Powder Coat Radiator Top Mount Rubbers Radiator bleed pipe Twin Fan Pack (2nd hand) Carbon Inner Wing panel Alloy Oil Filter neck Splitter removed and resprayed Front bumper removed and resprayed / realigned Bespoke brackets made and fitted / extra support for splitter Intercooler adjusted to align with front bumper Mesh fitted as protection to fm inter cooler Powder coated in black Rear bumper realigned AP Racing 6 pot (red) front kit 355mm/32 AP Racing 4 pot (red) rear kit 310mm/28 Snare Washers EXE-TC Suspension Kit Sti Front Top Mounts Sti Rear Top Mounts M8 Cap Head M8 Washers 6 Speed Gear box installed OS Giken Triple Plated Clutch installed RCM Hydraulic Clutch Kit Clutch Balance 6 Speed Gear Knob Gearbox Drain Washer APR Flywheel Belt kit Rear Diff Assembly Rear Diff Oil Seals Drainback kit Downpipe Gasket 3" Exhaust Gasket Castrol Syntax Oil Silkolene Pro S engine oil Propshaft spacers RCM Twisted Turbo Kit 44mm V Band Tial Waistgate Garret GT30-37 - 0.82 Ceramic Coated Manifold & Up Pipe Ceramic Coated Turbo Housing Ceramic Coated Twisted Turbo down pipe Wingbox Assembly RCM Injector Kit RCM Compressor Collar RCM Air injector collar weld Twisted Turbo Oil & Water kit Dash 8 compressor fitting Dash 8 straight Dash 8 finisher Dash 8 Aeroquip Hose Hose clip set Male / Male Dash 4 100mm Induction hose K & N Induction Filter 100mm Spun Trumpet S/S hose clamp S/S hose clamp Silicone Hose Male / Male Dash 4 Dash 4 90 degree fitting Alloy Turbo Drain Gasket Dash 4 90 degree fitting S/S Dash 4 Swept Fitting Dash 4 straight steel Samco Intercooler Hose Samco Intercooler Hose RCM Header Tank Bracket Seat Frame Bolt NGK Racing Spark Plugs Male to male M14x1.5 Dash 8 Dowety seal Motec Lambda Sensor Male male Male male Dash 6 straight Pipework Polish Stainless Steel pipework Bosch Motorsport 10 bar pump RCM Sti Anti Surge Kit Copper Washer 45 degree dash 8 fitting Dash 6 Aero Quip Saddle Tie Hose Clip Workshop Sundries Shell V Power fuel ATF Power Steering Fluid Motec Mapping Session Battery Cover Water Bottle & 2 pumps Header Tank (80cc) Remote Power Steering Resevior / 2 Goodrich Fittings Oil Cap Brake Cap Clutch Cap Replaced all M6 x 20mm bolts with s/steel ones. Replaced rear light clusters with non orange lenses Replaced front indicators (complete) New Tein Bonnet dampers sprayed Sonic Blue & fitted Wheels blasted and re painted - lacquered. and a partridge in a pear tree
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27-11-2009, 08:06 PM
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Well as you say,winter is the damage time for body parts,at least your avoiding that.
Think my request to JGM is going to be a first for him........''can you make it as least powerfull as possible please Simon''? 
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27-11-2009, 08:09 PM
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 You didnt go at it half baked did ya? What numbers your running mate?
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28-11-2009, 10:23 AM
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317 Bhp
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28-11-2009, 11:05 AM
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Omg
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28-11-2009, 02:24 PM
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Kidding not sure yet but over 500
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