'X' Plate Classic - Rise of the Silver Surfer

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by alfa male

Havent you got a brand new original set of these already?

Yeh but he's scared to use them just like he's scared his 888's might get cold. And I thought I was anal........I think he's getting worse with age.......

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

Nice trolley jack, looks as clean as the scoob

i was going to say that

[alfa male]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Yeh but he's scared to use them just like he's scared his 888's might get cold. And I thought I was anal........I think he's getting worse with age.......

lol, same as I bought another set of original pukka wr1 floor mats that are still in their wrappers!

[alfa male]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

Nice trolley jack, looks as clean as the scoob

Bloody superb trolley jack, jacks from something silly like 50mm-650mm.

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

I didn't think about using the toe bars as jacking points! I had to go out side and check what you was jacking it on. I've always struggled getting the trolley jack under the side , what a superb idea!!!!!

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

I didn't think about using the toe bars as jacking points! I had to go out side and check what you was jacking it on. I've always struggled getting the trolley jack under the side , what a superb idea!!!!!

Oooooh yeah, interesting idea. Wonder if thats usable on the newage too...

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Oooooh yeah, interesting idea. Wonder if thats usable on the newage too...

Yes done it for years

[Mck3nzi37703]

Nice classic good thread well done

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Mck3nzi37703

Nice classic good thread well done

Cheers mate.....

Well car is now up on bricks and wheels will be delivered to lepsons in the morning http://www.lepsons.com/

Shame about the kerbing as the backs are still nice and clean :



Lets' see what Lepsons can do with this......





Old Centre caps Vs New
I may do a group buy on these if anyone is interested, as I intend to get back to the guy and get another set with the correct size 'P'.
They work out at £10.99 a set

[SpecB]

Be good to see how they come back as mine need doing too.

[Scott.T]

Well I ended up going for something like the :


Lepsons had 3 Anthracite options and I went for the lightest variant. It should look like the above, maybe a touch lighter.
They could of colour matched the Bright Flitter but I fancied a change and TBH although I have liked the Bright Flitter, when they are in direct/bright sunlight they do look a touch too light/bling, which I wouldn't mind changing.

Should hopefully pick them up Friday/Saturday.......

[Scooby_Greg]

Lepsons are good. Will look nice Scott

[SUBARMAN]

That is a nice look!!

[Steve_PPP]

Think that will look v nice Scott, but you know me and gunmetal wheels - its the only way!

[SpecB]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Lepsons had 3 Anthracite options and I went for the lightest variant. It should look like the above, maybe a touch lighter.
They could of colour matched the Bright Flitter but I fancied a change and TBH although I have liked the Bright Flitter, when they are in direct/bright sunlight they do look a touch too light/bling, which I wouldn't mind changing.

Should hopefully pick them up Friday/Saturday.......

Look forwards to seeing the results, I'm in the same boat with the colour choice, I'm thinking of flitter plus a bit of black to darken them down, they look even lighter against my car!

[Lucky]

Should look nice Scott.

[Scott.T]

Got wheels back today.
Very pleased with the quality of finish and the colour choice.
Will try and get them on the car in the morning.....

[Hongkongfooi]

they look brand new!

[scotty]

Love the colour scott they are going to look nice on your scooby .

[Steve_PPP]

Impressive. Think they'll look spot on mate

[bonner]

very nice! whats the price per wheel?

[majorscooby]

Very nice indeed, me likes a lot . Might have to pop over to pick the box of bits up and have a gander!

[SpecB]

They look almost exactly the colour I want for mine!

[Lucky]

They will look the nuts Scott. The finish looks spot on from the picutres.

[simba]

Originally Posted by Lucky

They will look the nuts Scott. The finish looks spot on from the picutres.

Agree

[Scott.T]

A few quick snaps on this very grey day........

[BIG"E"]

[Hongkongfooi]

Looks good

[SpecB]

I think they looked better the original colour, tell you what you could swap them for mine!

[Lucky]

Yup, very nice

[majorscooby]

Looks mint, needs to be lowered just a tad.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by BlueBugEye

I think they looked better the original colour, tell you what you could swap them for mine!

hahah nice try!

They look spot on mate, nice one.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Looks mint, needs to be lowered just a tad.

That's next on the list. A set of Tein S-Tech's as they worked well on the Hawk.

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

That's next on the list. A set of Tein S-Tech's as they worked well on the Hawk.

Ill bring the scoob over tomo so you can see again how it sits. Although mine is on 17" wheels.

[Type-r-russ]

Looks very nice mate

They came out a treat

[SUBARMAN]

Very nice Scott!!

[majorscooby]

I've seen them in the flesh today and I WANT THEM!!!! Soooo mint.

[Scott.T]

Well yesterday I spent the day (it wasn't supposed to take all day) fitting my wideband Lambda probe, LC-1 controller and DB Green Gauge.



I did have this in the car previously (although with a difference style gauge) but stripped it out when I sold it.
To fit the probe meant taking the intercooler off to remove the exhaust bung and replace with the probe.

Did this want to come out...did it f.......
Allen key head kept slipping out, to the point it became a round hole.
Mole grips had nothing to grip, so out with the grinder.
Even after grinding some flats on it, it still wouldn't budge.

I started to think that maybe when the guy that fitted it (as I previously plugged it with a dead lambda) had cross threaded the bung.

Oh well time to take the downpipe off and run it out to Tones and let a paid mechanic have a go......worst case being maybe cut'n'weld a new probe boss on or even get another decat downpipe......
A simple job ended up with the downpipe having to come off.

Once off it got a bit more 'heavy' grinding on the garage floor, back as fat as the copper washer.
I then wacked the allen key socket in the end and hey presto, out it came.
It only took from 9:00am to nearly 12:00pm to get to a position where the probe could be fitted.......what fun I was having........

I was so pleased it came out, I just had to photograph it.
No need for a trip out to Tone's now.......






From there in, it all went to plan although the wiring and looming of the LC-1 and Gauge took longer then expected.
I also took the opportunity to fit the Knock Sensor and KS3 Knock display wiring in, but can't yet decide where to fit the KS3.
The DB Green gauge worked on the trial connection, but now has what I think an error condition displayed. So I probably pulled a wire off while looming/running it through. I'll leave that for another day when my patience resumes.........

[SpecB]

Took me ages to fit the KS3 they are exactly the wrong size/shape for any of the neat places!

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by BlueBugEye

Took me ages to fit the KS3 they are exactly the wrong size/shape for any of the neat places!

Agree. It's a nice unit but why have they put the connections on the side for all to see. Would be much better if they connected from the rear.

[SpecB]

The main issue I had was access for the jog wheel on the side, otherwise I'd have put it inside the air vent, I used a vent mount and ran the cable up through the vent instead.
Newage of course but it should still work on a classic:

[Scott.T]

A bit if quick finger work and a paypal transfer managed to secure this from P1WOC (only the cover, not whats under it )

[Scooby O'Neill]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

A bit if quick finger work and a paypal transfer managed to secure this from P1WOC (only the cover, not whats under it )

It's a cardboard cut out under that isn't there lol

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

A bit if quick finger work and a paypal transfer managed to secure this from P1WOC (only the cover, not whats under it )

For a minute there I thought you had bought another scoob!


Nice properly shaped cover! Could do with one of those for mine as it still gets dust and bits on it even though it is garaged.

[Scooby_Greg]

I've heard about those quick fingers!

Looks a quality cover and a good fit Scott - nice purchase.

[Scott.T]

My most exciting modifications yet....an STI Space saver.
The Brembo's have only been on about 7 years, so thought it time I got a space saver that would manage to fit over them.



Initially I didn't think it were any different to the classic's yellow one, as the depth looked about the same. Turn's out though it's a much larger diameter, hence how it clears the calipers.

[Scott.T]

Intercooler Spray switches to replace my after market switches used on my DIY intercooler spray (See thread here : http://www.southeastscoobies.co.uk/v...hread.php?t=31)
Will be nice to at last have the 'Auto' switch which illuminates to tell me it's on.

[bonner]

that ic mod you done was ideal wouldnt mind having ago myself but dealing with electrics isnt my thing!! might just go hardcore on the rainex and use the washer bottle!! would be good for now it might be a prob in the summer with all the dust ect

[SpecB]

Keep thinking of fitting an I/C spray to mine but not sure on the value on a FMIC

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by BlueBugEye

Keep thinking of fitting an I/C spray to mine but not sure on the value on a FMIC

Wouldnt bother unless you have money to burn & time on your hands

[Scott.T]

A bit of a refresh under the arches, and change from Eibach Sport Spings to Tein S-Tech.

[SpecB]

Looking good!

[Scott.T]

Fronts now done.......

[majorscooby]

I want those wheels!!!!!!! Looks really nice under there and that's my next job. Each wheel off and a good old clean up.

[majorscooby]

Did my fronts again today just to brighten things up. What do you use to refresh yours Scott, brush and a tin or a rattle can?

[scotty]

scott your inner arches are so clean don't you drive it that often lol

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Did my fronts again today just to brighten things up. What do you use to refresh yours Scott, brush and a tin or a rattle can?

A brush and masking tape for the plastics and hoses and lay it on as thick as possible.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by scotty

scott your inner arches are so clean don't you drive it that often lol

It used to be my daily drive and the previous underside pics are when it was used up until April 2011.
But since buying it back, in October 2012, it's become a real garage queen.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

What do you use to refresh yours Scott, brush and a tin or a rattle can?

Silver smooth Hammerite, by brush..

[ajelliott]

What do you use to clean the underneath? I'll be doing mine when I know what to use and when I've got the right stuff. Please anyone

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

A brush and masking tape for the plastics and hoses and lay it on as thick as possible.

Same here then but no masking tape, just a steady hand and some white spirit on a cloth on the end of my finger just in case i catch anything. Was very tempted to take the arch plastics out but just didn't have time.

[Hongkongfooi]

is that rust on the discs in the vents? tut tut

[Scott.T]

Took a few snaps today after a run out to settle it down on the Tein S-Techs.
Measured it all when we got back and it has dropped the rear around 25mm and the front 15mm. Which makes it pretty level overall all round.

The sheep gave it the nod of approval too.....

[Lucky]

Sits perfect now Scott. The Teins do work well.

[Steve_PPP]

That looks really good mate and nice and shiny on the underside too!

[bonner]

Nice work mate! they have done a very tidy job of your rims!! did they also fit tyres and balance up??

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by bonner

Nice work mate! they have done a very tidy job of your rims!! did they also fit tyres and balance up??

Yes.

Done at Lepsons..

[majorscooby]

Sits nice now fella, much much better.

Good to know 18" rims will fit just snug.

[Scott.T]

Carrying on the refresh now the evenings give me a little daylight time.
Whiteline Roll bar off and re-paint for the 2nd time in about 8 years. Decided to go for Gold this time after changing the stock silver to red last time.

Not a great finish due to the original finish being pretty poor and rust does tend to like sprung steel.
Gave it a rotary sand back to bear metal, which is pretty pitted TBH, a hand brush coat of smoothrite to try and hold back the rust, followed by a top spray coat in gold (same as brake disk hubs....a bit of a theme starting here.....).
Hanging up to dry......


PowerFlex drop links had a strip down and quick clean :


Brackets and fittings.
All fixings are being replaced with stainless. Brackets will get a re-paint for now. May get powder coated later after I have visited 'Hastings Powder & Paint' for some prices.


Spare wheel underside, rear of rear inner wings and chassis rails all brushed off, wiped down with white spirit and cleaned up and ready for paint.
Underseal applied to vunerable area's / seams and where there was little coverage on the chassis rails.





At some point the exhaust backbox will come off and I will clean up all the brackets, use stainless fittings and polish up the heatshield.

[SamSTI]

Looking good Scott!!

I don't think you'll ever take your car out on the road again, just in case it gets dirty lol, I know I wouldn't after all that work.

[majorscooby]

Good job mate.Those rear arb bush holders are avalible from import car parts for about £8 a pair in nice shiney silver.


As for the rear areas you have painted black with waxol mine are the same, quite grotty indeed and a good wire brush is going to be needed. A set of flaps will keep future crap from getting launched up there.

[SUBARMAN]

Great work there Scott. Quite like the look of those late classics. Might get myself one someday.

[Scott.T]

A few evenings work.
Not totally happy with the ARB finish, so will probably either replace or get 'powdered'. The paint wasn't 100% dry despite 2.5 days cure time, so ended up covered in finger prints.

It will get another coat at some point and a few other bits'n'bolts will get powdered or replaced with stainless.

[SamSTI]

Very nice Scott, you could eat your dinner off that

[Steve_PPP]

Very nice

You always had the Prodrive diff guard on there or is that a sneaky new addition?

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Very nice

You always had the Prodrive diff guard on there or is that a sneaky new addition?

Diff guard has been on for years, I just found a Prodrive Sticker

[majorscooby]

Good job, You've got me at it now Scott.

I've removed every bracket under the rear end plus both anti roll bars for pretty much the same job. Im going to buy new arb bush holders for front and back and front alloy drop links but ill blast and wire wheel the rest of the pieces all back to clean metal and re paint.


As soon as I'm back off my hold next week I'm going to purchase a set of new hardrace lateral arms and trailing arms.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Good job, You've got me at it now Scott.

I've removed every bracket under the rear end plus both anti roll bars for pretty much the same job. Im going to buy new arb bush holders for front and back and front alloy drop links but ill blast and wire wheel the rest of the pieces all back to clean metal and re paint.


As soon as I'm back off my hold next week I'm going to purchase a set of new hardrace lateral arms and trailing arms.

Hardrace an K-sport kit look good out of the packet. But if their anything like Whiteline the powdercoat is ****e and won't last a season.
I would rather get the OE stuff replaced or re-powdered.

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Hardrace an K-sport kit look good out of the packet. But if their anything like Whiteline the powdercoat is ****e and won't last a season.
I would rather get the OE stuff replaced or re-powdered.

I didn't know k sport did a kit, wonder what price there kit is? And I know what you mean about whiteline, my rear arb already looks tired and its only been on a year.

Are powder coating costs expensive??

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

I didn't know k sport did a kit, wonder what price there kit is? And I know what you mean about whiteline, my rear arb already looks tired and its only been on a year.

Are powder coating costs expensive??

I've a mate that has the kit, I may have a word to see if he will let me loose on it for the cost of materials.

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

I've a mate that has the kit, I may have a word to see if he will let me loose on it for the cost of materials.

Nice keep us posted on how it goes. Might send him some work his way.

I was looking into getting a powder coating set up here in my garage, compressor, shot blaster and cabinet, and an electrostaticMagic kit. It was just the curing of the larger parts that was my concern. Smaller bits like brackets etc can be cured via a heat gun. Plus after all the kit has been bought its probably cheaper to send the parts off, unless you can do a few parts for friends for a small fee etc and make a bit back.

[Scott.T]

A few piccies from a run out to pick up a parcel this morning......

[ralliart didz]

you love that car dont you

[majorscooby]

It does sit much nicer now.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

A few piccies from a run out to pick up a parcel this morning......

Funny looking post office....

[Scott.T]

Eibach sportline Vs Eibach P1 Red

[majorscooby]

You'll have to stand one against a tein when you have one off.

[Scott.T]

P1 Springs are now on the Bilstein's and below are the 'Ride Height' Comparisons :

Eibach Sportline
Front 648mm
Rear 652mm

Tein S-Tech
Front 633mm (-15mm Vs Eibach)
Rear 628mm (-24mm Vs Eibach Sportline)

P1 Eibach (Red's)
Front 648mm (-0mm Vs Eibach Sportline)
Rear 645mm (-7mm Vs Eibach Sportline)

The handling of the P1 Springs out performs the Tein's. The car no longer has a soft rear end when cornering and there's isn't so much dive when braking heavy. Overall quite a transformation. It has changed from un-settled (both car & driver), to handling where you feel you can push on harder.

It's a shame though that the P1 springs didn't drop the ride height more. Although they are new springs, so I hope a few more millimetres are dropped in time.

Below are the springs off the car.
It's clear that the P1 Eibach (Red's) are the shortest of the lot when off the car. But the heavier gauge and stronger poundage means they don't compress down as much as the Tein's.

Poundage has differences :
Eibach Sportline 171lb
Tein S-Tech Front 179lb
P1 Eibach Front 215lb

Eibach Sportline 188lb
Tein S-Tech Rear 179lb
P1 Eibach Rear 195lb

I was expecting a much harsher ride due to those figures above, but it all seems quite compliant. I suppose Prodrive & Eibach combined, do know what their doing

Front's



Rears :


The only question now is "What would the Tein's be like with a 24mm ARB and a Rear Diff/Cross-member lock ?"

[bigemp]

Nah you got that all wrong,they look silly on your scooby makes it handles like a robin reliant

Best you get them off and i will take them off your hands

[Scott.T]

The futures bright...The futures 'ORANGE'.....
Quite a substantial girth increase...well only 2mm extra, but it makes all the difference

[majorscooby]

Very nice indeed mate! Nice splash of colour.

Did you replace all the fixing bolts under there for the arb connections etc? If so where did you get them from. I could do with replacing mine really as there original.

Pretty gutted my hardrace links and arms won't be here for me to fit before the weekend, I got a good price through Alyn at Asperformance as you always do but he had to make an apologetic phone call to say he couldn't get them for ten days as there is none in the country. Old ones went back on so I can go to Leeds castle meet. :0(

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Did you replace all the fixing bolts under there for the arb connections etc? If so where did you get them from. I could do with replacing mine really as there original.

Been getting all my fixings from http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M8-A2-STAI...item79192aacba

[majorscooby]

Cheers Scott your a star.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Cheers Scott your a star.

I thought you were nicking yours from work

[majorscooby]

Oh i do and I've got loads of hex heads and I've done the entire engine bay but I can't see me getting to the heathrow office / stores for quite sometime to re stock and get the bolts I need so ill just order some up.

[Scooby_Greg]

Looks great Scott. Do you find with the extra girth the ride is much stiffer?

[Spunky]

looks good mate cant see any scratches ,did you take the exhaust of in the end ?

[ralliart didz]

scott can you tell me how you did your arches and under sill & paint name again as i cant find it in your thread.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by ralliart didz

scott can you tell me how you did your arches and under sill & paint name again as i cant find it in your thread.

Cleaned out the arches with a stiff brush and white spirit.
Re-Undersealed using hammerite underseal

The above is better to paint with than the more common Tetroseal stuff, which it too thick to brush. When I tried with Tetroseal I had to dilute it with spirit.

Then painted out using Smoothrite


At some point I may get some rattle cans knocked up in the correct Royal Silver and blow that over the top. Depends how bored I get

[ralliart didz]

thanks m8,i want to do this too my new evo.