SES Rolling Road Day - 29th Sept 2012

[Steve_PPP]

OK, we'll see you there if you're not at PP by 9am.

[tank_wrx]

Have fun guys and get a list of results up with all your out puts , gutted I'm missing this ( and at work this time of day should be illegal ! )

[Steve_PPP]

Heads up guys, looks like the M25 is shut clockwise from M23 round to J8 or J9

For those meeting at Pease Pottage, do so as planned - we'll go across to Horsham and then up the A24 i guess.

[Scott.T]

Have a good one guy's. I hope you avoid all the traffic and navigate the diversions successfully.

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Heads up guys, looks like the M25 is shut clockwise from M23 round to J8 or J9

For those meeting at Pease Pottage, do so as planned - we'll go across to Horsham and then up the A24 i guess.

thanks for the heads up as i was coming from horsham and was going to go up the m23. would have been a bit p'ed off if i hadn't known.

leaving in about 30 mins so see you there about 10.30 to 11.00.

[scotty]

Stuck on m25 don't know what time I'm going to get there

[Jolly Green Monster]

M25 car park as usual then?

[DukeBoy]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

M25 car park as usual then?

Yep, didn't see this as was fixing car this morning and left home just after 10.30, came off junction 9 at 1.30 and went back home again!!!

[Jolly Green Monster]

Holly ****

[555_Si]

thanks for a good day, i was happy the car made it through it's run. 135 k miles on clock, just put a backbox on, other than that a standard wrx bugeye wagon, got 238 bhp.

[Steve_PPP]

Sorry Rich, i should have drop you a message to give you a heads up but with all the hassles of getting there ourselves this morning it completely slipped my mind

Thanks to everyone that did come along, ended up with exactly 10 cars which was lucky fortunate, 1 less and it would have cost everyone another fiver.

Some good results, mine was a little down on power but a decat and remap soon will sort that. Somehow i've managed to lose 10 horses since it was last on the rollers about 4 years ago!

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Simon

thanks for a good day, i was happy the car made it through it's run. 135 k miles on clock, just put a backbox on, other than that a standard wrx bugeye wagon, got 238 bhp.

As i said earlier, cracking result for a standard bugeye wrx with those miles, nice one

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Sorry Rich, i should have drop you a message to give you a heads up but with all the hassles of getting there ourselves this morning it completely slipped my mind

Thanks to everyone that did come along, ended up with exactly 10 cars which was lucky fortunate, 1 less and it would have cost everyone another fiver.

Some good results, mine was a little down on power but a decat and remap soon will sort that. Somehow i've managed to lose 10 horses since it was last on the rollers about 4 years ago!

it was only 9 but charlie didnt realize till you had gone

[Blitzen01]

I was well impressed with my leggy wagon. 300.1hp, not bad for a fuel pump and a secondary decat. Was a good day out!

[Anger]

I sat in the traffic this morning for over an hour at 7am, road was completely closed, engine off and sat on the bonnet lol

[ScoobyStu]

Good day, thoroughly enjoyed it as did the Mrs which is a bonus as it means I can get to more stuff without her moaning Very happy with my results, need a map tweak soon which will be done. Good to meet those who were there, great bunch. Thank you to who ever organised it all. I will post my graphs up in a bit. Cheers, Stu.

[ScoobyStu]

AFR

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BOOST

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TORQUE

[Hongkongfooi]

its a good figure stu, glad the missus enjoyed it.

Apart from the ****ty hold up on the M25 it was a good morning out

[Steve_PPP]

Dogking, were you there today? Apologies if you did and i spoke to you, just no idea what your real name is!

Originally Posted by C. J.

it was only 9 but charlie didnt realize till you had gone

Damn, pass on our apologies next time you see him. Will have to consider options in the future like having a deposit for these kind of things, not fair on Charlie to get told we've got 15 on the list for only 9 to turn up.

But other than that and the M25, a good day, and great to meet some of the new members on here

[Jolly Green Monster]

Tweak you mention to the fuelling?
Little bit lean

Simon

Originally Posted by ScoobyStu

AFR

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BOOST

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TORQUE

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

Tweak you mention to the fuelling?
Little bit lean

Simon

Exactly what I was thinking. Suprised that's not detting or at least pulling timing

[Jolly Green Monster]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Exactly what I was thinking. Suprised that's not detting or at least pulling timing

doesnt look to be.. no tell tales on the power and torque curves..

potential for more torque and power with correct fuelling I feel.


Worth checking there is no inlet pipe splits at all just in case.

Simon

[ScoobyStu]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

Tweak you mention to the fuelling?
Little bit lean

Simon

Yes mate to the fuelling, I'll be in touch with you in a few weeks to get it sorted out

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Exactly what I was thinking. Suprised that's not detting or at least pulling timing

Timing was spot on mate, I know nothing about the technical side like this so I'm only repeating what Charlie told me. Said it was a bit lean but nothing to worry about. Obviously needs sorting though. Would octane booster lean it out at all? Run three tank fills with it now specifically for this day as when it was mapped, it was running it then so wanted to be as close to the same running as possible. Haven't got anymore though so now back on standard V. Other than the cold air feed, it's the same as when i bought it and to the best of my knowledge, been running this way for 2 1/2 years or more......

[Jolly Green Monster]

no octane booster wont lean it out.. methonal or ethonal would though.

its leaner than ideal the whole rev range so unlikely to be fuel pump or the like imho...

Happy to help

[ScoobyStu]

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

its a good figure stu, glad the missus enjoyed it.

Apart from the ****ty hold up on the M25 it was a good morning out

Yeah it was good mate, glad it all went well apart from the traffic as you say

[ScoobyStu]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

no octane booster wont lean it out.. methonal or ethonal would though.

its leaner than ideal the whole rev range so unlikely to be fuel pump or the like imho...

Happy to help

Ok mate cool, still getting to grips with the technical side to it so everybody's input is appreciated

You didn't map it originally ( GRD did it 5 1/2 years ago) so do you think a 'tweak' will be adequate or would you prefer to remap it?

[Jolly Green Monster]

Yhpm

[Juggernaut]

Happy with the power output as standard as Charlie said the early prodrive packs aren't that good, but have some gremlins in the system that need sorting asap!
Flywheel power,


Air Fuel Ratio,


Boost,

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

Happy with the power output as standard as Charlie said the early prodrive packs aren't that good, but have some gremlins in the system that need sorting asap!
Flywheel power,


Air Fuel Ratio,


Boost,

I don't like the look of that AFR plot. it looks like the MAF is failing and not metering air correctly above 4500rpm. AFR should be low 11's or even high 10''s on a subaru or prodrive map. For the price of a MAF at £80 its gotta be worth swapping out especially if still on the original.

[Juggernaut]

That's what Charlie said, also said be best to fit a walbro pump and new maf sensor.
Going to get a standard dump valve, panel filter and look into getting a remap eventually to sort it out!
Charlie said the state it's in at the moment no heavy boosting especially over 5500rpm unless I wanted a really close up look at my pistons!

[Jolly Green Monster]

Yes fuel pump failed imho

Its a walbro in that year of ppp and they do fail eventually

[kartingsteve]

The good thing about RR days is you can see little potential problems that you might have so you don't get the big ones.

[Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

Yes fuel pump failed imho

Its a walbro in that year of ppp and they do fail eventually

Cheers for the input Simon going to order a new walbro in the morning then see how it goes and going to check the state of the maf sensor.

[Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by kartingsteve

The good thing about RR days is you can see little potential problems that you might have so you don't get the big ones.

Yeah really glade that I put it on the rollers, probably wouldn't have been any the wiser until it went pop!

[Jolly Green Monster]

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

Cheers for the input Simon going to order a new walbro in the morning then see how it goes and going to check the state of the maf sensor.

Doesnt look like maf to me

[Steve_PPP]

Some photos from yesterday - didn't get to take many as i went to sort the pizza order and came back to find another 3 cars had been done lol

















Love the Blitzen, 300.1bhp as well, comedy that you said you desperately wanted 300 beforehand too

[Petey1985]

LOL, it was a good day out albeit most people disappointed with there power figures. Cheers for the pictures steve.

[Blitzen01]

I could not have been happier, just creeper over the line.......lol

Thanks for the pics Steve.

[Petey1985]

Originally Posted by Blitzen01

I could not have been happier....lol

Thanks for the pics Steve.

I said most people you lucky bastard!

[Petey1985]

My power run graphs, for some reason the car has never made the power it should have. this was not as bad a the last time but not as good as when it was mapped:







Charlie said I could possibly have a blocked or broken up Cat/silencer which is causing the low power figure.

[Blitzen01]

Mine:














Could do with a map to tidy things up abit.

[scotty]

First time on the rollers with my classic and very happy with the figures and its still on standard boost .

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[Jolly Green Monster]

Originally Posted by Petey1985

My power run graphs, for some reason the car has never made the power it should have. this was not as bad a the last time but not as good as when it was mapped:







Charlie said I could possibly have a blocked or broken up Cat/silencer which is causing the low power figure.

To me it looks lean and the has pulled a little timing at higher rpm possible due to det

[Petey1985]

YHPM Simon

[Granby]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Just to let you know when you exit the m25 come down the dual carrage way and turn left at first roundabout let your satnav have a spaz then at next round about turn left take the little road 5m into that road on the right . Hopefully your satnav will then reroute you to the rollers .
The reeson for this was on the news , the round about next to the hospital collapsed with all the rain and the road is going to be closed for sometime .

Is this road still closed or is it all ok now?

[Jolly Green Monster]

okay now

[Granby]

Cheers Simon