SES 2017 Trip to Nurburgring - 19/05/17 to 23/05/17

[NL03Scooby]

The in-coming storm and hail showers almost made Big E run I am sure of it...

[nikkinokkinoo]

Hello Folks, I've been watching a few you tube things on the ring and one of them mentioned a contact number in case of an accident. I'd not really thought about this but here is the number from the website - maybe others already have it (not that I plan to use it!)

Emergency numbers

• Nurburgring office +49 2691 302215 The first place to report accidents

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by NL03Scooby

The in-coming storm and hail showers almost made Big E run I am sure of it...

Ill have you know I've done the London Marathon in 3hrs 34mins..

[alfa male]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

Ill have you know I've done the London Marathon in 3hrs 34mins..

On a push bike!!!

[little emp]

This is probably a bit of a stupid question but I've read in quite a few places that cameras are now banned on the nordschleife, but obviously there are thousands of on board videos online. So, I was just wondering is it a case of putting the camera in more of a discrete place within the car instead of somewhere it's easily seen e.g.the windscreen? Or is it just one of those rules that no one really worries about enforcing?

Just thought I'd ask so if it does need to be hidden, I can work out a more discrete place to mount it.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by little emp

This is probably a bit of a stupid question but I've read in quite a few places that cameras are now banned on the nordschleife, but obviously there are thousands of on board videos online. So, I was just wondering is it a case of putting the camera in more of a discrete place within the car instead of somewhere it's easily seen e.g.the windscreen? Or is it just one of those rules that no one really worries about enforcing?

Just thought I'd ask so if it does need to be hidden, I can work out a more discrete place to mount it.

They used to be banned but last year I think it was? They have said its now ok.

I think this is because they can also be used in the case of an accident as evidence, they've realised that its almost impossible to police.

But I could be wrong.

Im taking my Gopro

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by alfa male

On a push bike!!!

In his car

[little emp]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

They used to be banned but last year I think it was? They have said its now ok.

I think this is because they can also be used in the case of an accident as evidence, they've realised that its almost impossible to police.

But I could be wrong.

Im taking my Gopro

That makes things easier then, I'll definitely be taking mine too in that case

Thanks!

[Steve_PPP]

Yes they relaxed rules on cameras a couple of years ago, suction or fixed mounts in car are fine. They don't like passengers just holding cameras (although obviously impossible to police). External suction mounts are not allowed.

[Anger]

I'm staying 5 mins from Bruunchen, so you guys will have to let me know when your there

[555_Si]

Will do James, you over with others?

[Anger]

A few Cossies and Evo's

[Ferd]

Not long now

Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to drive the Ring, insurance and all that nonsense and as Frenchie will attest to, they're a bit funny over here with such things. I definitely still want to go, I just wonder how others manage to organise things here, or do they simply throw caution to the wind and go around any way.

BTW, is there any possibility of persuading you guys to come via Luxembourg so I can meet up with you? I can assure you the drive through the Ardennes is much more spectacular than the northern route (which I avoid because the Brussels ring road is a nightmare), plus there's nice cheap fuel waiting for you at the border before Germany, along with a damned good Burger King if you're feeling peckish.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Taomyn

Not long now

Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to drive the Ring, insurance and all that nonsense and as Frenchie will attest to, they're a bit funny over here with such things. I definitely still want to go, I just wonder how others manage to organise things here, or do they simply throw caution to the wind and go around any way.

BTW, is there any possibility of persuading you guys to come via Luxembourg so I can meet up with you? I can assure you the drive through the Ardennes is much more spectacular than the northern route (which I avoid because the Brussels ring road is a nightmare), plus there's nice cheap fuel waiting for you at the border before Germany, along with a damned good Burger King if you're feeling peckish.

We normally drive the Ring whilst being aware of the insurance situation - basically assuming we are uninsured is the safest bet.

In terms of the route, I think most of us feel the usual route for us is the best route. We've made the journey a lot of times know where we're going, and where the best fuel stop for us is (between Liege and Verviers on the E42 whilst getting lunch). Whilst the Brussels ring road is pretty crappy, the time of day we use it normally isn't too bad - roughly midday on a Friday.

Can you plot the route from Calais to Auderath (where the hotel is) on google maps and link us - i'm just curious. I'm guessing Calais - Lille - Namur - then head south to Luxembourg?

The other issue is that we like to get to the Ring as early as possible, the Friday afternoon is the best time to get on track all weekend as its nice and quiet usually.

[Ferd]

Yup: https://goo.gl/maps/i9QCY4tUADE2 and recommend stopping at the border before Trier.

[Granby]

Trier is also worth a visit, stayed there a few times for the WRC

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Granby

Trier is also worth a visit, stayed there a few times for the WRC

Yup, lovely place

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

The other issue is that we like to get to the Ring as early as possible, the Friday afternoon is the best time to get on track all weekend as its nice and quiet usually.

At the moment the Ring is closed on Friday.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

At the moment the Ring is closed on Friday.

WHAAATTTTTTT???

[Steve_PPP]

Just noticed this Strongman run thingy is on Sat/Sun whilst we're out there.

24km assault course
http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/events...ongmanrun.html

No idea of the route but assume as there's still two full days of TF that it doesn't go anywhere near the Nordschleife...

edit/ found this:


Looks like it might close the back way to the Ring at least (where we go right at Kelberg roundabout and through the villages rather than straight on past Lidl)

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Just noticed this Strongman run thingy is on Sat/Sun whilst we're out there.

24km assault course

Could do that in my sleep shame im not going .

[Anger]

Watched them doing the course a few years back, looked hard work

[The Handbrake]

http://http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/british-motorists-on-the-continent-face-%C2%A3640-speeding-fines-from-today/ar-BBAMCuD?ocid=ob-fb-engb-57

British motorists on the continent face £640 speeding fines from today

On the plus side does this mean I get a nice "driving Miss Daisy" ride over? ok until at least the authbahn

[Ferd]

Finding the "autobahn" is getting harder these days as speed limits slowly creep in -there's not as many left as there used to be.

I did find this part amusing in that article:

The Department of Transport said: “Whilst the UK is still a member of the EU, we are obliged to bring in rules on cross-border enforcement.

“Once we have left the EU, our Parliament will have the power to amend the law.”

Amend the law to what? When the UK has left the EU it will no rights to any data and vice versa, so they still can't start prosecuting EU drivers unless they actually stop them on the spot. They can do that already - oh, sorry no they can't because they keep taking police off the streets and the roads. Muppets.

At least I know for certain now that I can simply ignore the cameras when I visit the UK. I just need to be careful driving back through Belgium and France.

[555_Si]

Roads are so bad here you'll have trouble speeding on them anyway!!

[NL03Scooby]

Not long to go now folks, just a reminder of the meet details on Friday 19th and the all important checklist. As has been pointed out some of the stuff in the list may or may not be law in mainland Europe but if you have it all there shouldn't be any issues!

06.20 Meet @ the Shell service station Junction 11 M20 (CT21 4GH)

06.40 Leave for Euro tunnel terminal. (2 minutes down the road)

06.45 Check in

07.50 Depart UK.

The Check List FOR THE CAR

1: Spare Bulb Kit
2: Warning Triangle
3: Hi Visibility Vests (1 for each person in car to be kept inside, not the boot)
4: Headlight Beam Deflectors (see link below)
5: Fire Extinguisher
6: First Aid Kit
7: Octane Booster (personal choice)
8: Oil (optional but advised)
9: GB Sticker (if you dont have GB on your number plate)
10:Spare Key
11: Sat Nav (with European Data)
12: Crash Helmet (not compulsory)
13: European Insurance & Breakdown Cover (make sure it covers repatriation, just in case)
14: Track insurance (those insured with Keith Micheals, call Moley)
15: Driving License, insurance cert. V5 form and MOT certificate to be carried at all times !
16: Locking wheel nut tool
17: Tyre pressure gauge
18: Breathalyser kit

PERSONAL ITEMS

1: PASSPORT !!
2: Euro Tunnel confirmation e-mail with booking reference and dont forget to register you API http://www.eurotunnel.com/uk/advance...r-information/
3: E 111 (optional additional health insurance)
4: Euro's and debit / credit cards (inform bank that you are away for safety)
5: Mobile Phone & Charger
6: Headache Tablets (trust me)
7: European Plug Adaptor
8: Walkie talkies ? (I will be bring the same 3 or more if I can acquire some)
9: Big bag of cash. Euros.

[Ferd]

Nice list. BTW at least one hi-viz vest must be in passenger cabin, not in boot i.e. accessible without leaving the car.

BTW, if anyone forgets something, send me a message, if I have it I can bring it along. I can PM someone my mobile phone if it's useful.

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[Steve_PPP]

Just another thing to mention based on the last couple of years...

We've previously got to the tunnel check-in barriers and found there's space on the earlier train rather than the one we'd booked on. Some people went with what was booked, whilst some went for the first available train so the group got split up. We managed to rendez-vous again in France but its easiest if we all stay with the 07:50 train should the same thing happen again...

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Just another thing to mention based on the last couple of years...

We've previously got to the tunnel check-in barriers and found there's space on the earlier train rather than the one we'd booked on. Some people went with what was booked, whilst some went for the first available train so the group got split up. We managed to rendez-vous again in France but its easiest if we all stay with the 07:50 train should the same thing happen again...

I agree entirely with what you've said.

Trouble is with the automatic check in, it allocates you the train giving you the mirror tag..
Which I believe is what happen last year,
don't forget those that have booked the over 1.85m to follow the correct lanes.

[Steve_PPP]

At the barriers you get a screen that says which train you want, and a choice of the earlier one or your booked one? Or at least I've always got that choice?

[Neil97rs]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

I agree entirely with what you've said.

Trouble is with the automatic check in, it allocates you the train giving you the mirror tag..
Which I believe is what happen last year,
don't forget those that have booked the over 1.85m to follow the correct lanes.

As a first timer I couldn't agree more. You all saw yesterday what im like at going to the correct meeting points so I would get hopelessly lost

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

At the barriers you get a screen that says which train you want, and a choice of the earlier one or your booked one? Or at least I've always got that choice?

Yup, always appears that way for me

[Seanedg]

I'm the same!
used the tunnel loads of times, but I always get lost, wrong lane etc.

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[NL03Scooby]

Everyone getting the same train makes life a bit easier when we get over to France. I do recall having the option on the screen to choose the train, and then panicking and selecting the one at the top not considering the consequences and hoping for the best.

We do have to deal with the fact we get split up on the train between the tall and normal vehicle height sections but at least we would all be on the same train together.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

At the barriers you get a screen that says which train you want, and a choice of the earlier one or your booked one? Or at least I've always got that choice?

I'll look out for that then

[nikkinokkinoo]

Getting excited - my alarm will be set this year and I hope to be on the train with the majority of you.

Small % of me thinking of taking the WR1......

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by nikkinokkinoo

Getting excited - my alarm will be set this year and I hope to be on the train with the majority of you.

Small % of me thinking of taking the WR1......

Glad you've got things sorted..

I'll give an early morning call..

[555_Si]

Menus for Friday evening meal will be up at the weekend i hope once Jackie has got them across to me.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

Menus for Friday evening meal will be up at the weekend i hope once Jackie has got them across to me.

Hmmmm, Mixed Grill or Pork Lukullus I reckon, not that we know the menu or anything

[555_Si]

Got the menu's, will post them tmrw when i get a moment, usual last minute, lets build a track car rush on. Only just got in from working on it this evening.

[nikkinokkinoo]

Everyone ready?

I'm pretty much there.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by nikkinokkinoo

Everyone ready?

I'm pretty much there.

WR1 or Beemer have you deided

[bigemp]

Originally Posted by nikkinokkinoo

Everyone ready?

I'm pretty much there.

Yep think we are all ready and sooooo loooking forward to this

[NL03Scooby]

Almost there, off work Thursday to sort, pack, check off the check list and finalise everything.

[Seanedg]

Couple of things to sort out, roll on Friday, can't wait.....

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[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Seanedg

Couple of things to sort out, roll on Friday, can't wait.....

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What do u have left to do mate?

[Neil97rs]

Originally Posted by NL03Scooby

Almost there, off work Thursday to sort, pack, check off the check list and finalise everything.

Same as me . Excited now just need to remember to take the ear defenders or I will be deaf by the time I get there

[NL03Scooby]

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

Same as me . Excited now just need to remember to take the ear defenders or I will be deaf by the time I get there

And a cushion for some of the Belgian motorway!

[Seanedg]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

What do u have left to do mate?

Euro's and have my wheel alignment checked as I've just fitted new front ball joints.

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[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Seanedg

Euro's and have my wheel alignment checked as I've just fitted new front ball joints.

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[555_Si]

I'm knackerd, i may be ready for Friday....

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

I'm knackerd, i may be ready for Friday....

Decided which car you are taking yet Si?

[nikkinokkinoo]

Originally Posted by scotty

WR1 or Beemer have you deided

Think it will be the BM, have to decide today as I wont get access to it after today (in a garage in Dorset).

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Decided which car you are taking yet Si?

Got a track day spec clio, almost built in 4 working days!!! Just got to do final touches today.

with the lack of time i had, this is nothing short of a miracle as it has had a fair bit done to it and custom fabricated. Only wish i had time to cage it before we went.

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

Got a track day spec clio, almost built in 4 working days!!! Just got to do final touches today.

with the lack of time i had, this is nothing short of a miracle as it has had a fair bit done to it and custom fabricated. Only wish i had time to cage it before we went.

Yeah saw ud bought one - glad uve managed to nearly get it all sorted

[NL03Scooby]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

Got a track day spec clio, almost built in 4 working days!!! Just got to do final touches today.

with the lack of time i had, this is nothing short of a miracle as it has had a fair bit done to it and custom fabricated. Only wish i had time to cage it before we went.

Hurrah!

Well done that man. I saw yesterday Vettel's team changed his engine in less than 2 hours, what is your excuse?

😉

[555_Si]

My team consists of me and jo and did i mention the impact gun issue????

[Seanedg]

Cars ready, had wheel alignment done today, wasn't out much considering I've had the front suspension apart.
Just got to pack my bag and make sure paperwork is all in order

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[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Seanedg

Cars ready, had wheel alignment done today, wasn't out much considering I've had the front suspension apart.
Just got to pack my bag and make sure paperwork is all in order

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[555_Si]

Right guys, I will link the menu for Friday night dinner at Jackies. If you can let me know what each of you want so that I can forward this to her, that would be great.


Soups and starters
Fresh deep fried mushrooms served with mayonnaise 6, 50

King prawns on a bed of honey-balsamic Puy lentils, served with Rucola pesto 9, 50

Cream of fresh white asparagus soup 4, 50

Cream of fresh carrot soup topped with whipped cream 4, 50


All dishes are served with a side salad. All the herbs that are used are grown in our own herb garden. Please choose your own accompaniment for your main course from the following (Except for the Chef ́s Salad)
French fries, potato croquette, sautéed potatoes, potato gratin, boiled potatoes or rice
Plaice fish fillets served with fresh stewed tomatoes


Bread crumbed pork escalope, fried in butter

Rump steak, served with homemade herbed butter

Chef’s special salad strips of chicken breast and pork tenderloin, lightly fried, served with peppers, tomato, onions, a mixture of leaf salad and fresh herbs

Roasted chicken breast marinated with thyme, lemon, sweet pepper and garlic

Homemade beef olive, filled with gherkins onion and bacon, served with apple red cabbage

Homemade tagliatelle, served with wild garlic and almond pesto, tomatoes and shavings of fresh parmesan (V)

Grilled pork tenderloin served with a pepper cream sauce

Pan fried turkey breast served with an orange sauce and a cinnamon peach

“Osso buco”, calf shin bone, cooked slowly with red wine, fresh rosemary and tomatoes

Pork escalope “Lukullus”, oven baked with cheese, mushrooms and onions

[Ferd]

I'll have:

Originally Posted by 555_Si

Fresh deep fried mushrooms served with mayonnaise

Pork escalope “Lukullus”, oven baked with cheese, mushrooms and onions, with potato gratin

Thank-you

[nikkinokkinoo]

Hungry just looking at that list - please can I have:

King prawns on a bed of honey-balsamic Puy lentils, served with Rucola pesto 9, 50

Osso buco”, calf shin bone, cooked slowly with red wine, fresh rosemary and tomatoes



ta

[scotty]

The first thing i would be wanting is a beer what you think alfa male

[Anger]

Going to miss Jackies food this year

[555_Si]

Come and join us James

[alfa male]

Originally Posted by scotty

The first thing i would be wanting is a beer what you think alfa male

Me............? Don't drink mate!

[alfa male]

Are there any other plans afoot for eating elsewhere? ie) Steak place, Pizza place, cockpit etc..... ?

[NL03Scooby]

Originally Posted by alfa male

Are there any other plans afoot for eating elsewhere? ie) Steak place, Pizza place, cockpit etc..... ?

Steak is Saturday night, Sunday night can be whatever people fancy, if we decide early enough Saturday we can always try and book somewhere for the Sunday... probably Jackie's Monday night but again down to what ever people fancy, nothing set in stone.

[Seanedg]

I'll have

Fresh deep fried mushrooms served with mayonnaise

Rump steak, served with homemade herbed butter, with fries

And Jason will have

Cream of fresh carrot soup topped with whipped cream

Rump steak, served with homemade herbed butter, with fries

Thanks si





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[NL03Scooby]

Rob:

Deep fried mushrooms

Roasted chicken breast and fries

Stephen:

Deep fried mushrooms

Chefs special salad

[555_Si]

As Rob said, jackies friday night, pistenklause saturday night and then we can decide from there.

[Neil97rs]

Me
Chicken breast and fries

Lucy
Chefs special salad

Thank you

[The Handbrake]

For the Sunday cant recommend the place up by the castle enough. Lots of the locals go there, Huge burgers, schnitzel, amazing views out on the veranda. A definite go to place for dave and I now. I think you all would love it.

It doesn't look anything from the car park side but when you go in it has memorabilia everywhere and the decking has the panoramic views. The restaurant is nicely done and the staff friendly.

https://m.facebook.com/zurnuerburg/

[Steve_PPP]

That sounds a great idea Wanda, be nice to try somewhere new.

[Rdlangy1]

How wrong does it sound when I say "I miss Schnitzel" ha ha

[The Handbrake]

Edited post above for link. Slightly cheaper than bleu ecke and tastier I found and still huge burgers lol

[The Handbrake]

Grrr spell correct lol

[Red Baron]

Think Scott and I went there back in 2012, just sat out on the deck in the sun with a beer and a bowl of chips each.

On another note, what's the big structure going up on the circuit on the Web cams, looks like a stage.

http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/fans-i...e/webcams.html

[little emp]

Could I please have:


Roasted chicken breast marinated with thyme, lemon, sweet pepper and garlic with French fries

Callum would like:

Cream of fresh carrot soup topped with whipped cream 4, 50

Rump steak (medium), served with homemade herbed butter with French fries

Big emp would like:
Rump steak (well done), served with homemade herbed butter with French fries

And kerry would like: Homemade tagliatelle, served with wild garlic and almond pesto, tomatoes and shavings of fresh parmesan (V) with French fries

Thanks!

[scotty]

Originally Posted by alfa male

Me............? Don't drink mate!

Sorry i forgot you stop smoking aswell how is that going so you be drinking water then

[The Handbrake]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

Think Scott and I went there back in 2012, just sat out on the deck in the sun with a beer and a bowl of chips each.

On another note, what's the big structure going up on the circuit on the Web cams, looks like a stage.

http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/fans-i...e/webcams.html

They are starting set up for n24 or strongman event

[nikkinokkinoo]

What lap times are people hoping for? I didn't bother timing it last year but I may do this year just for the crack - hope I can go faster than Sabine in the Transit from that TG episode.

[Neil97rs]

Just hoping to get round in one piece lol

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by The Handbrake

For the Sunday cant recommend the place up by the castle enough. Lots of the locals go there, Huge burgers, schnitzel, amazing views out on the veranda. A definite go to place for dave and I now. I think you all would love it.

It doesn't look anything from the car park side but when you go in it has memorabilia everywhere and the decking has the panoramic views. The restaurant is nicely done and the staff friendly.

https://m.facebook.com/zurnuerburg/

Wanda could you look in to making a booking please ?

If Si and Rob agree.

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

Just hoping to get round in one piece lol

That's a good plan

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by nikkinokkinoo

What lap times are people hoping for? I didn't bother timing it last year but I may do this year just for the crack - hope I can go faster than Sabine in the Transit from that TG episode.

I don't time whilst in the car, but just lookup times afterwards on the video (from timestamps under the bridge/gantry). Would be nice to go under 9 minutes again, not managed it for a couple of years due to weather/traffic/overheating scoob but not fussed if it doesn't happen. These days its more about getting away from work, enjoying the people, food and beers

[scooby doo]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

I don't time whilst in the car, but just lookup times afterwards on the video (from timestamps under the bridge/gantry). Would be nice to go under 9 minutes again, not managed it for a couple of years due to weather/traffic/overheating scoob but not fussed if it doesn't happen. These days its more about getting away from work, enjoying the people, food and beers

dam straight that last bit

[NL03Scooby]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

Wanda could you look in to making a booking please ?



If Si and Rob agree.

I'm happy for that, if not a problem Si and Wanda?

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by NL03Scooby

I'm happy for that, if not a problem Si and Wanda?

Sounds good

[bigemp]

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

Just hoping to get round in one piece lol

Snap me too just get round safely and hopefully not get lapped by another ses member lol

[Seanedg]

Originally Posted by bigemp

Snap me too just get round safely and hopefully not get lapped by another ses member lol

I second that, also to add SES don't get over taken by a Datsun

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[555_Si]

just 2 more days........long days!!!

[bigemp]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

just 2 more days........long days!!!

one more long night and day to go for me...cant wait!!!

[NL03Scooby]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

just 2 more days........long days!!!

[Steve_PPP]

Bit slow on the uptake here... but:

Claire:
No starter.
Pork escalope “Lukullus”, oven baked with cheese, mushrooms and onions, sauteed potatoes.

Me:
Mushrooms
Rump steak, served with homemade herbed butter, french fries.

[Neil97rs]

Only 1 more late shift to go tonight then car cleaning tomorrow

[Anger]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

Come and join us James

thanks Si

But I think my lot have already sorted dinners

[Ferd]

Don't suppose there's any chance of you telling me when you're about 1hr away from the turn in Germany where you change from the A60 to the A1? Then I can see about making my way and joining you that point. I took a look at meeting you up near Liege where you stop but that's a long way in the wrong direction.

Is anyone using Waze on the their phone for navigation? Would make this easier.

[nikkinokkinoo]

One more day in the orifice and then try and get an early night.

Going to try and get packed and loaded tonight.

**** NOTE TO SELF ===> SET ALARM ****

Long weekend of car things - doesn't get much better.

Friday looking a bit damp but dry remainder.

[AndySpecD]

Guys, I'll be out there Thursday to Sunday so will keep an eye out for you and the Scoobies.

Out in the M140 and a mate in his E46 M3.