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Old 10-03-2010, 08:16 PM
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Couple of bits fitted today
Oil cooler with stat and a KS3 nock monitor
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where did the oil cooler go?
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thanks for that info.
just wondered where it went
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:27 PM
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Looks that way

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its gone lol,by pm,but my kind offer was declined.
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just wanted to know if the oil cooler was mounted in the front or within the bonnet scoop area?as to getting the best direct cooling.
as planning this myself
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Maybe Chris will post a reply and a pic. I would like to know as well to be honest.
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Only a muppet would put it were the oe intercooler goes as it will drain every time the car is switched off . have mounted in the place the a/c rad goes as dont have one . pics not doing those any more . only put on thread to keep track for my own records not for pat on back etc
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:23 PM
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Only a muppet would put it were the oe intercooler goes as it will drain every time the car is switched off . have mounted in the place the a/c rad goes as dont have one . pics not doing those any more . only put on thread to keep track for my own records not for pat on back etc
Think they only asked where did you put it, i've also been wondering if i was to fit a oil cooler where it should go, shame your not putting pics up though as they are always helpful and can give other members ideas

ps...suppose i will have to have a sneak look at your car sunday and find out
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chill..........im the king of cool lol
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just please keep a close eye on the oil lines as they pass over headers Chris

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just please keep a close eye on the oil lines as they pass over headers Chris

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Old 12-03-2010, 09:05 AM
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Only muppets like TSL ?

Oh and Zen rebuilt Andy's on Surrey and guess what ... put it back where the oe intercooler was
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thats why i asked,ive seen a few with it there,also i thought james grd showed me a pic once of one there,just interested in the best fitment place,as a mechanic(cossie nut)has offered me his as he owes me a favour,and is also supplying the fitments and fitting it,he asked me to find out where scooby owners felt its best fitment was as to look at the choices(jgm,he mentioned too about placement of the lines,allthough he has aviation hydrolic lines on it at the moment which could withstand very high temps externally without a rise inside)
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:58 AM
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Oh and Zen rebuilt Andy's on Surrey and guess what ... put it back where the oe intercooler was
I know and can't understand why !
Oil is heavy and will drain , once its filled up not a problem where it is but on start up it will have some starvation of oil
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:33 PM
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Yeah i get what your saying, but you dont need the cooler from cold and by the time its upto temperature and you need it, the oil should be back in the cooler by then shouldnt it ?

or have i got it wrong as thats how ive always seen it, got me thinking of what you said tho about the oil draining
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If this is any help ive seen them mounted to the right side of the f/bumper. Useing the spotlight position for air stream. One other mounted to the ns/iner wing & ducting from the spotlight area.
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i had a new beetle 1.8t that was a AMD developement car (260 bhp)with a bigger turbo/intercooler.
that had an oil cooler on the passengers side front fog area too!
but i have some pictures of subaru's with them in th OE intercooler space,taking all the cool air from the scoop(and they were race prep cars)
maybe james will post on this.
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Yeah i get what your saying, but you dont need the cooler from cold and by the time its upto temperature and you need it, the oil should be back in the cooler by then shouldnt it ?

or have i got it wrong as thats how ive always seen it, got me thinking of what you said tho about the oil draining
Thats correct, the oil wont be going to the cooler when its cold, the only thing that worries me is when the stat opens how long will it take for the oil to reach the cooler and back??
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:08 PM
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ive never run one and never had any problems... Stat that is
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My RA was built by Autosportif with no money spared and they didnt see fit to add a stat and the oil was in the mid 70's most of the time

My current newage has a full spec c oil cooler set up and they have seen the need to fit a stat, but at the mo it sits in the mid 70's unless sitting in traffic...
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Can't see any point in not fitting a stat, the oil doesn't need cooling when its cold, its no different from the cooling system
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Can't see any point in not fitting a stat, the oil doesn't need cooling when its cold, its no different from the cooling system
It didnt take that long to get up to temp on my RA without... if any thing the spec C one with seams to be taking longer to get upto temp for some reason

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Like I say, 'overlooked by most people who fit them'.

Thing is with oil is it has an optimal working temperature, or at least an optimal range. To enable the oil to remain within these optimal temps the best way to regulate it is to use a 'stat'.
Im guessing that as it was built purely for track use and having gauges in the car they didnt see it as a must
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cheers peeps think we will probabley go this route as it seams an easy enough placement
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[QUOTE=MrX???;40824]Thats the point with where this thread has gone

theres a distinction to how each car is used, there no 'right or wrong'

on a 'working car' like yours the cooling would be needed most of the time and as such probably negates the need for a 'stat'.

The issue raised about where to fit it, is at best a pointless argument. So long as its fitted correctly in the location of choice there should be no issues.

Its a shame we can't see where Chris has fitted his, because i'm sure by the response people are interested!


The Zen ones fine the only 'issue' is the vibration one as its fixed to the engine



and that was all i wanted to know lol,anyway thanks all for your input
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Guys regarding oil coolers and mounting etc

The oil filter take off for the oil cooler is pretty much last in line before it returns to sump, so even if it does drain upon switch off there won't be any air 'pumped' round the engine becaus it is all post the high pressure side. (a bit like the oil return pipe from turbo, never sees the pressure you read on your gauge).

Also the stat takeoff for the cooler is never fully closed when cold, it is partailly open always to allow some circulation.


Another note CJ, I've just read whole thread, you have a 333 pump in tank already and it can be used as an external, so if you're happy with that then stick the 255 back in and use the 333 from swirlpot, no need to buy another pump
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255 sold & pick up pipe cut to mount 333 hence the 044 type pump
P.s. yes i know the stat is never close but its not worth the chance
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Not a performance enhancement this time but a performance safe gaurd
As the whole idea behind me buying a car for track days was behind me buying the scoob a swirl pot was in order before brands the first circuit of hopefully many !
so i got a pump houseing and set about putting -6 fitting on to it and the head ache of how to install swirl pot , bosch 044 pump and 30amp relay. this is what happened





The idea behind the box is being able to through things in the boot with out and worry of things effecting the set up
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Looking good mate and a good idea with the protection
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tidy job!

not quite sure whats going on there, other than you've mounted the fuel pump outside the fuel tank!??! i'll never make a mechanic me
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not quite sure whats going on there, other than you've mounted the fuel pump outside the fuel tank!??! i'll never make a mechanic me
two pumps
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swirl pot feeds the external pump
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Reason stops fuel starvation
Fuel starvation = fd engine
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not quite sure whats going on there, other than you've mounted the fuel pump outside the fuel tank!??! i'll never make a mechanic me
He's greedy one 255 in the tank aswell
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not quite sure whats going on there, other than you've mounted the fuel pump outside the fuel tank!??! i'll never make a mechanic me

Just think of it as a 'Flux-Capacitor'. You watch what happens when CJ reached 88mph......

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just an oe one for now
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Is that the fuel return going back into the swirlpot.
Is there a logical reason for this or can it just retrun direct to the tank.
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Going to spa instead full day on track on the 4th oct . money will only go so far
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Is that the fuel return going back into the swirlpot.
Is there a logical reason for this or can it just retrun direct to the tank.
Think you would be better off asking that on 22B
Just piped it as every one else does on there
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