Feb 2012 - SES Meet & RR Runs, Sun 19th Feb - JRM Sumo Power, Rye , Sussex

[THE HOBBYMASTER]

Great day at Sumo, really enjoyed the run down as well, not to fast and not to slow All in all a top class day with a great bunch of fella's......
And for once I wasn't the only Hatch LOL

Well done to all involved

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Mean the logs from the ecu for revs for boost , seems that the wrong gear ratio was used .

Not sure what gear was run as didn't witness Nick's. Maybe 4th which could explain the slight rise, along with the additional cooling (assuming SRR still run the 6-speed in 3rd).

2 Hawkeye's were also run. Niges mapped for decat maintaining PPP peak boost targets and an RB320 running stock exhaust (PPP map). Comparing these two to each other and also to my own (which has been both dyno'd and road dyno'd in both these configuratons), the figures all seem to stack up (within 1BHP ATW in some cases).
Also comparing Nick's and Clives, both recently run on 2 other rollers, the figures still pretty much tally. So I'm pretty confident with the accuracy of the JRM, SRR, RCM and for my own purposes, my road dyno figures/settings.

Just a shame that we have to mess with doing maths to get an ATF figure from the ATW plots @ JRM. As we all like to have bigger number of the two on the print-outs.

[C. J.]

Charlie runs different gears on six speeds depending on if it's a Jdm , uk or hawk.
It's the boost that's a bit strange as its 1100 rpm different to 1.5bar

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Charlie runs different gears on six speeds depending on if it's a Jdm , uk or hawk.
It's the boost that's a bit strange as its 1100 rpm different to 1.5bar

Agree that's a bit strange, as quite a considerable difference.
Sure fire way to tell how it boost's is to log the same on the road, then compare to both RR plots (assuming what gear run is known).

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Well what can I say....
Thankyou all for coming along and hopefully having a great day.
Thanks also to Sumo/JRM for letting the group wander around the facility and appreciate what a fantastic setup it is. Also for laying on the endless drinks and pizza.
Hopefully Sumo will get some pay back and some of you may use them for goods or services in the future.

Running the rolling road was a nice touch and something I don't think many clubs have had the benefit off. It certainly makes for a nice spectacle and was also good to see that the ATW figures for the 2 high power cars were very close to those recently achieved on other rollers.

The group of cars turning up on Hastings seafront was quite a sight to see, and I really wasn't expecting so many of you to join us for the last leg of the journey. I'm half expecting someone at work to tell me about all the Scoob's in town on Sunday LOL.....

Thanks again to everyone for turning up, and lastly.....what a great way to start 2012

Yuo are right mate, Hastings was a moment I wont forget. Watching peoples faces on the seafront as 30 odd scoobs rumbled by was brilliant.

[C. J.]

Mind you he may have developed a pre turbo exhaust leak

[bobsta]

Fantastic day sumo/JRM facility was amazing pizza was good too
Thanks to all that set today up
Next time Granby were avoid the dip on m20 at speed
My arse left the seat lol

[Anger]

Great day today and thanks to JRM and Scott for organising

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Mind you he may have developed a pre turbo exhaust leak

That could explain it.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Well what can I say....
Thankyou all for coming along and hopefully having a great day.
Thanks also to Sumo/JRM for letting the group wander around the facility and appreciate what a fantastic setup it is. Also for laying on the endless drinks and pizza.
Hopefully Sumo will get some pay back and some of you may use them for goods or services in the future.

Running the rolling road was a nice touch and something I don't think many clubs have had the benefit off. It certainly makes for a nice spectacle and was also good to see that the ATW figures for the 2 high power cars were very close to those recently achieved on other rollers.

The group of cars turning up on Hastings seafront was quite a sight to see, and I really wasn't expecting so many of you to join us for the last leg of the journey. I'm half expecting someone at work to tell me about all the Scoob's in town on Sunday LOL.....

Thanks again to everyone for turning up, and lastly.....what a great way to start 2012

Yep, pretty much what I would say as well. Great bunch of guys down there and it was fantastic to see such a huge turnout from everyone. We certainly surprised JRM when the queue kept coming into the car park

Must be the biggest turnout we've ever had for an SES organised meet?

Jrm also said it was there biggest turn out to date inc the MLR. :EVO:

[Jason73]

Thanks to all the guys at sumo/jrm for a top day out and also ses for organising it. Really enjoyed getting the scoob on the rolling roadonly had it for 5 months so time to get saving and boost those numbersonce again

[SeanMcKnetic]

What an epic day. Thanks to SES for organising and Sumo/JRM for their hospitality.

Skullfudge's P1 is amazing. I love it.

[Dave P]

Thanks to JRM/Sumo and Scott (and anyone else at SES who was involved) for a great day

The best Subaru meet I have been too in years, well organised and fun

Scott, what a fantastic job mate, big hats off to you

Also, what a great reception from Sumo, we were so well looked after, that was great hospitality, many thanks

Great turn out and a great day, well done everyone involved.

Neil, It was great to catch up with you yesterday mate, Laura was happy too as she was sad at the thought of not seeing you in Germany

[Jolly Green Monster]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Charlie runs different gears on six speeds depending on if it's a Jdm , uk or hawk.
It's the boost that's a bit strange as its 1100 rpm different to 1.5bar

Gearing possibly set wrong.

Easy to see as peak will have moved on the power by same amount.

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[Skullfudge]

Good one Nige

That was funny when the calculations came out at 1050 bhp

Great day put on by your fellow friends at Sumo / JRM mate, and nice hospitality.

[Kerstin]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Great day guys and good to meet up with many of you,

RCM dyno 516 bhp
Sumo 518 bhp

Checked out the correct formula and you divide the wheel bhp x 0.8 for turbo charged, 4x4's.
This would indicate both dyno's to be slightly out as the formula suggested 525 bhp.

To be honest I don't give a 5hit ............. but I did when I saw the front of my P1 start sliding off the rollers

How did that happen, Clive?

[Skullfudge]

Kerstin.......... when they strap a car onto the rollers using the canvas straps that crank up tight the have two at the front of the car & two at the back.

They cross the straps at the rear and at the front however when they crossed the front straps they were rubbing tight on braided hoses I have coming out the sump ( at the bottom of the engine), so they decided not to cross the front straps. Instead the front straps came out straight.

When the driver put my car in 1st gear the car pulled to the right VERY nearly sliding off the front roller.

If it would have happened at 8000 rpm in 4th gear it would have been a nightmare. The guys were on the case and done a good job as they took their time and rerouted the straps.

[Kerstin]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Kerstin.......... when they strap a car onto the rollers using the canvas straps that crank up tight the have two at the front of the car & two at the back.

They cross the straps at the rear and at the front however when they crossed the front straps they were rubbing tight on braided hoses I have coming out the sump ( at the bottom of the engine), so they decided not to cross the front straps. Instead the front straps came out straight.

When the driver put my car in 1st gear the car pulled to the right VERY nearly sliding off the front roller.

If it would have happened at 8000 rpm in 4th gear it would have been a nightmare. The guys were on the case and done a good job as they took their time and rerouted the straps.

OMG, it's just relieving to know everything went well!! That would have been a right nightmare.

[simba]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Glad you all had a good day . Didn't come as have been working on cars for the last three days so a divorce would of been on the cards !

helen is a tough cookie mate you know not to upset her !!

[Granby]

Originally Posted by bobsta

Next time Granby were avoid the dip on m20 at speed
My arse left the seat lol

fpmsl i didn't even notice the dip

[D-gas]

Many thanks to all the guys involved in sorting out what was a FANTASTIC day !

Bloody hell Clive, never knew you had that happen! :zoiks:

Just glad all went ok after that

[C. J.]

There exhaust extraction seems a bit of waste of time lol

[Juppy]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Kerstin.......... when they strap a car onto the rollers using the canvas straps that crank up tight the have two at the front of the car & two at the back.

They cross the straps at the rear and at the front however when they crossed the front straps they were rubbing tight on braided hoses I have coming out the sump ( at the bottom of the engine), so they decided not to cross the front straps. Instead the front straps came out straight.

When the driver put my car in 1st gear the car pulled to the right VERY nearly sliding off the front roller.

If it would have happened at 8000 rpm in 4th gear it would have been a nightmare. The guys were on the case and done a good job as they took their time and rerouted the straps.

i have a few good videos of your car on the rollers and managed to catch it nearly slip off it, i will post them up if you want to view it it was the 1st time i have seen your car and i must say i was very impressed!

[Sumo Dan]

Afternoon guys,

Really great to see you all at the open day. Glad everyone had such a good time. It was nice to meet you all - plenty of new faces and some awesome cars

Keep in touch if you want anything and we'll do whatever we can. And as Scott mentioned, hopefully we can get something going with a rolling road day in the future.

We've put a bit up on our website about the day. Link is here: http://www.sumopower.com/News/50/Hug...-at-Sumo-Power

[BIG"E"]

Nice write up Dan.

[Skullfudge]

Thanks Juppy.

Go for it mate, your vids will be good to see

Great write up Dan
Some nice pics their too

[Skullfudge]

Nice write up Dan, and great photos

[thepieman]

Yep, nice write up Dan..... Good photos too....

Hopefuly we can do another day in the future....

[bobsta]

Originally Posted by Granby

fpmsl i didn't even notice the dip

think you just missed it changing lanes as i didnt lol :BLUGOLD:

[Juppy]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Thanks Juppy.

Go for it mate, your vids will be good to see

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2717313854013
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2717325574306

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Juppy

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2717313854013
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2717325574306

The link does not work for me.

[Juppy]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

The link does not work for me.

try now matey??

[Skullfudge]

Works now okay ... thanks.

Jeez .......... that first clip bought back some memories !!

[Juppy]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Works now okay ... thanks.

Jeez .......... that first clip bought back some memories !!

yea i bet! sorry that clip was pretty short! my heart would have been pounding if that was my car lol

Yep, that first clip is officially a ****ty pants moment! :mfart: :mfart:

[SpecB]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

Gearing possibly set wrong.

Easy to see as peak will have moved on the power by same amount.

Peak power:
@ JRM = 365.5 @ 6350
@ SRR = 349.9 @ 6300

Not really that different, especially allowing for graph reading errors.

[C. J.]

Think you have a header leak then nick !

[Jolly Green Monster]

Shoukd be obvious if a leak.

Could be just the way the dyno loads the car.

You scanned the graphs yet?

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Think you have a header leak then nick !

Maybe the dumping of coolant at SRR put a latent defect in them, becoming worse in the time between RR's

[Jolly Green Monster]

stadnard headers.. I think they get used to water soaking when you drive through puddles

plus the leak wasnt that bad

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

stadnard headers.. I think they get used to water soaking when you drive through puddles

plus the leak wasnt that bad

oh!, thought he had tubulars of something.

[Jolly Green Monster]

You'd think so with the poweroutput.

Also never seen an issue driving through floods with wrapped after market headers other than having to wait for the steam to clear when stopping before being able to see if road is clear lol.

[SpecB]

Pretty sure there's no header leak - certainly doesn't feel/sound like one and with power being pretty much the same and at the same point surely I'd see a difference there as well?




Plan is to go tubular and probably de-cat as well, I'd like to de-cat first just to see how much of a restriction the sports cat is but not interested enough to have to have 2 remaps!

[SeanMcKnetic]

We strapped the Surrey Scoobies GoPro to the Stormtrooper and got some convoy footage. It was obviously much longer so I've had to crop it right down when editing it. It was a bit of a nightmare to edit despite how simple iMovie is supposed to be.

Somehow I've left out the key scene of the queue of cars turning right into SUMO's forecourt. My apologies...