SES @ The Supercar Event - Dunsfold Sunday 22nd June

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by scooby doo

Alright for me to tag along in my Datsun sunny??

Cant see why not..

[drakesnow]

PMed ya Mr Lucky

Would be good to see you there Mr Benji!!! You going to convoy?

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by drakesnow

PMed ya Mr Lucky

Would be good to see you there Mr Benji!!! You going to convoy?

Replied to PM mate.

[scooby doo]

Il come, what's the details boys, price? And leaving Hastings time? Datsun is back into hands not impressed but that's a different story lol

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by drakesnow

PMed ya Mr Lucky

Would be good to see you there Mr Benji!!! You going to convoy?

Emailed over to you mate, plus sent it from my phone. Just let me know you can open it ok. Payment received too

Steve

[pete2273]

ATTENDEE's :

1 Silversurfer (Prefer Patcham then A23/A272 to Dunsfold)
2 Ginola & Handbrake
3 Red Baron (Following Scott so wherever he is)
4 pete2273 (happy to meet where ever coming from maidstone)
5 Scoobystu (Happy to meet at Patcham or wherever is chosen )
6 Hongkongfooi/simba
7 Martinjameswoods
8 Drakesnow (arriving later)[/QUOTE]

meet ne where im easy

[Scooby_Greg]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Emailed over to you mate, plus sent it from my phone. Just let me know you can open it ok. Payment received too

Steve

Emailed you Steve

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Scooby_Greg

Emailed you Steve

Ok greg. Nothing has come through tho?

[Hongkongfooi]

I'll see you there as we hope to be there for 9am

[Scooby_Greg]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Ok greg. Nothing has come through tho?

Pm sent instead! Sorry not sure where that went!

[Scott.T]

Ok due to the confusion of people coming from all directions, some coming at the last minute and some dropping out the logistics of a meet up and convoy have got far too complicated.
Therefore there will be no organised meet point.
Feel free to talk/arrange amongst yourselves.

My plan is to leave at 8 and will probably go economy clsss in the diesel as my boys have already cost me 2 supercar rides.

The Scoob can have a run out to Goodwood next weekend.

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Ok due to the confusion of people coming from all directions, some coming at the last minute and some dropping out the logistics of a meet up and convoy have got far too complicated.
Therefore there will be no organised meet point.
Feel free to talk/arrange amongst yourselves.

My plan is to leave at 8 and will probably go economy clsss in the diesel as my boys have already cost me 2 supercar rides.

The Scoob can have a run out to Goodwood next weekend.

you aren't even going in the scoob?

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

you aren't even going in the scoob?

No point really. It's only going to trundle ( is coming) along the A27/A23 then get stuck in a queue.
The Leon FR will get me there just as quick and the money saved on fuel can be spent on the family on the day.

[Red Baron]

Will be behind you in the VAG diesel soot cloud convoy.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

Will be behind you in the VAG diesel soot cloud convoy.

No Smoke = No Poke......

[Red Baron]

Unfortunately my smoke is due to 193k miles rather than a re map

[Ginola]

I will be at the Shell station on the roundabout at the Broadbridge Heath junction of the A24 at 8am, leaving at 10 past. I need to avoid the traffic or any queues as I have a knackered Left Knee! Thankfully the clutch in the Subaru is lighter than the one in my soot chucker
Commuting to work this week has been very expensive!!

[Martinjameswoods]

So no scooby convoy well il be coming from wallington way if any one fancys a meet and greet before the event i dont mind an early one or a travel just let me know

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Ginola

I will be at the Shell station on the roundabout at the Broadbridge Heath junction of the A24 at 8am, leaving at 10 past. I need to avoid the traffic or any queues as I have a knackered right Knee! Thankfully the clutch in the Subaru is lighter than the one in my soot chucker
Commuting to work this week has been very expensive!!

see you there

[pete2273]

Is anyone going from the maidstone or surrounding area??

[Martinjameswoods]

Ginola and hongkong you mind if i join you for a 3 car convoy? its only 20odd miles from mine and would enjoy the drive early on a sunday

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by Martinjameswoods

Ginola and hongkong you mind if i join you for a 3 car convoy? its only 20odd miles from mine and would enjoy the drive early on a sunday

Of course we don't fella see you there

[ScoobyStu]

This one Dave?

[Martinjameswoods]

Yea i think thats it mate thats the one i found il see you guys there about 7.30

[The Handbrake]

Dave will confirm in a short while he is

[scooby doo]

Anyone from Hastings area heading up

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by ScoobyStu

This one Dave?

Aye that's the one, the entrance is right on the roundabout

[drakesnow]

LOL scott going "economy"

Text you benji

[ScoobyStu]

Originally Posted by The Handbrake

Dave will confirm in a short while he is

Haha, so was I!

Originally Posted by Martinjameswoods

Yea i think thats it mate thats the one i found il see you guys there about 7.30

Originally Posted by Ginola

Aye that's the one, the entrance is right on the roundabout

Cool. See you both there about 8am then

[scotty]

Have a great day everyone .

[Mortster]

If anyone fancies a tea or coffee, I'm only 10 mins away. My Arch makes a nice photo op too! Postcode is GU8 5PX.

[bigemp]

2 words = La Ferrari (chris evans)

[Red Baron]

http://youtu.be/m9nD96mv9CA

[Steve_PPP]

So what was the size of the donation to get a ride in that then?

Hope you guys all had a good day out

[bigemp]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

So what was the size of the donation to get a ride in that then?

Hope you guys all had a good day out

Auctioned them off for £1k a time

[Martinjameswoods]

Was a good day all round yesterday i really enjoyed it just wish my hayfever haddnt been so bad i would of liked to stay till the end but i was dying lol but was still nice to meet afew of the boys

[ScoobyStu]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

http://youtu.be/m9nD96mv9CA

Nice find Shane, looks and sounds aazing that. Good to see him give it a bit too!

Originally Posted by Martinjameswoods

Was a good day all round yesterday i really enjoyed it just wish my hayfever haddnt been so bad i would of liked to stay till the end but i was dying lol but was still nice to meet afew of the boys

Nice to meet you too mate. Feel your pain with the hayfever. Ruins many a day for me throughout the year unfortunately. Santa Pod always seems to be particularly bad and it's one of my favourite venues

[Red Baron]

Another good video of it here

http://youtu.be/YhCs4GWY9co

Shane

[Scott.T]

Overall it was a nice day, but I think there is a fair amount that could be done better, which I will list.
I would also welcome your idea's and add it to the list.
I will then pass this feedback to the event organisers.

Here's the start :

• Where were all the car club stands. I spotted 3 or which at least 1 was un-official (ours). The last time SES attended (2011) there was a large number of car clubs stretching for several hundred meters down the runway (see Supercar Siege 2013 & 2014 at Leeds for an example of how club stands look/create/make an event succesful).
• The flyers/advertising the event had many club stands on the list (copied from previous years, I assume), far more the the 3 mentioned above.
• With acres and acres of grass why is the event limited to the hardstanding/runway. People were cramming in on the available grass space to sit, rest and have picnic's. The hub of the event in 2011 used a grassed area for the trade stands, food suppliers and eating area. This was much better then sitting in the middle of a dis-used runway.
• A number of the childrens activities seemed to be taking very little money.
• The Supercars paddock could of been opened up to the public during lunch.
• The track layout / experience is alot shorter then it was in 2011 (but £10 more expensive).
• The spectator viewing area was not as good as 2011 i.e on the famous 'Gambon' corner. As a result the cars were too far away for good photography unless you have a proffesional camera. The red/white safety barriers obscured photographs when the cars were within a good photogrpahic distance.
• Toilet's...I don't remember seeing many, certainly none in the car park area.

[bigemp]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Overall it was a nice day, but I think there is a fair amount that could be done better, which I will list.
I would also welcome your idea's and add it to the list.
I will then pass this feedback to the event organisers.

Here's the start :

• Where were all the car club stands. I spotted 3 or which at least 1 was un-official (ours). The last time SES attended (2011) there was a large number of car clubs stretching for several hundred meters down the runway (see Supercar Siege 2013 & 2014 at Leeds for an example of how club stands look/create/make an event succesful).
• The flyers/advertising the event had many club stands on the list (copied from previous years, I assume), far more the the 3 mentioned above.
• With acres and acres of grass why is the event limited to the hardstanding/runway. People were cramming in on the available grass space to sit, rest and have picnic's. The hub of the event in 2011 used a grassed area for the trade stands, food suppliers and eating area. This was much better then sitting in the middle of a dis-used runway.
• A number of the childrens activities seemed to be taking very little money.
• The Supercars paddock could of been opened up to the public during lunch.
• The track layout / experience is alot shorter then it was in 2011 (but £10 more expensive).
• The spectator viewing area was not as good as 2011 i.e on the famous 'Gambon' corner. As a result the cars were too far away for good photography unless you have a proffesional camera. The red/white safety barriers obscured photographs when the cars were within a good photogrpahic distance.
• Toilet's...I don't remember seeing many, certainly none in the car park area.

Too be honest everything you said above sums it up completely scott,if anyone not been to the asda charity day at bruntinghthorpe do it this year, they will show how it should be done

[Scott.T]

Looked like fun :

[Scooby_Greg]

The rides were far too expensive for what was provided. If they were half the price they would have made more money and there were enough cars to cope with the additional turn over. 3 laps was also not enough - the brakes and tyres were just warming up when we had to.come in.
I also felt there needed to be more static displays as mentioned by Scott - it would be better to have more focus away from just the 'super'cars runs.
It would have also been nice to pay to go on some of the planes, although appreciate these are owned by third parties and may have been difficult to arrange.

[Harsh]

Hi guys, thanks for the feedback and once again apologies for a difficult gestation for this years event.
We've already changed things in that respect for next year by launching for 2015 today!

I've taken notes of all the comments and will be putting them to the committee to see what can be done to improve things.

Some of them though I already know the answers to so i will explain those now, the rest we will take on board!

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Overall it was a nice day, but I think there is a fair amount that could be done better, which I will list.
I would also welcome your idea's and add it to the list.
I will then pass this feedback to the event organisers.

Here's the start :

• Where were all the car club stands. I spotted 3 or which at least 1 was un-official (ours). The last time SES attended (2011) there was a large number of car clubs stretching for several hundred meters down the runway (see Supercar Siege 2013 & 2014 at Leeds for an example of how club stands look/create/make an event succesful).
• The flyers/advertising the event had many club stands on the list (copied from previous years, I assume), far more the the 3 mentioned above.
• With acres and acres of grass why is the event limited to the hardstanding/runway. People were cramming in on the available grass space to sit, rest and have picnic's. The hub of the event in 2011 used a grassed area for the trade stands, food suppliers and eating area. This was much better then sitting in the middle of a dis-used runway.
• A number of the childrens activities seemed to be taking very little money.
• The Supercars paddock could of been opened up to the public during lunch.
• The track layout / experience is alot shorter then it was in 2011 (but £10 more expensive).
• The spectator viewing area was not as good as 2011 i.e on the famous 'Gambon' corner. As a result the cars were too far away for good photography unless you have a proffesional camera. The red/white safety barriers obscured photographs when the cars were within a good photogrpahic distance.
• Toilet's...I don't remember seeing many, certainly none in the car park area.

The club stands as we know were a nightmare this year, the pricing and marketing of those was a dropped ball., I've already put my recommendations forward on how to change that...it's not right for me to say what i have requested in case it changes form with discussion but needless to say it will change!

The ones on the leaflet were the ones who originally said yes then dropped out after printing... it happens and i'm hoping the changes will mean they wont drop out for 2015.

The grass thing is a bugbear of hours... it's a working airfield and they want to use the grass so are reticent to cut it... plus..... you never know the weather, this year was amazing but if it had rained the grass would have been off limits.....
But if you can think of how to get around that we'd welcome the input

We do want to look at the layout, having been to the event how would you move things around?

Supercar Paddock.... sadly that's not an option. The cars are left there while the owners go to lunch... whilst we can vouch for a few people and of course you can vouch for yourselves we can't be sure that (even accidentally) the cars may be damaged or souvenir hunted - they have to be out on track so the owners need to know they have not been tampered with in any way and the only way to ensure that 100% is not to allow anyone in.

it is shorter, for two reasons - the demand we had outstripped supply so we needed to give more people the chance to ride and of course bearing in mind this is a all about maximising revenue for the charity we unashamedly shift the demand / supply curve to compensate by adjusting the price and availability... we still were pretty much sold out except for the last 30 mins..... it's also more fun as there are more corners and 3 laps instead of 2.

The other reason is war and tear on the cars, they are out multiple times on a demanding airfield, as you may have noticed that takes its toll on the cars and the drivers, brakes need to be cooled, tyres checked and drivers rested.... it's a safety thing - you can only stay that intense for short periods unless you do track days or race a lot which most of our drivers don't do.

Viewing area - i tend to agree, would love to try and change that if i can.

No toilets in the car park there were a lot next to the ticket tent behind where you were queuing for the rides..... that's the greatest footfall area so it seemed logical
but i can look into another site in addition, they are expensive but and we try to keep costs low but i can ask!

Originally Posted by Scooby_Greg

The rides were far too expensive for what was provided. If they were half the price they would have made more money and there were enough cars to cope with the additional turn over. 3 laps was also not enough - the brakes and tyres were just warming up when we had to.come in.
I also felt there needed to be more static displays as mentioned by Scott - it would be better to have more focus away from just the 'super'cars runs.
It would have also been nice to pay to go on some of the planes, although appreciate these are owned by third parties and may have been difficult to arrange.

On your first point i think I covered my opinion it in my earlier answer, i'm unsure if another lap would be a good idea, personally i think most cars / drivers were pretty much at the end of their energy / reliability levels by the end of each day. most owners did a set of tyres 2-3 tanks of fuel, a set of brake pads over the weekend and I disagree there were enough cars - we had 180 over the weekend and it was only just enough.
Plus, when we had the long track layout we had three problems,
1. The paddock was overcrowded due to lack of space,
2. The cars were hitting silly speeds at the end of the main straight and The Children's Trust want to mitigate the speed (they look after children with acquired brain injuries and a lot of those are from car accidents so we have to respect their wish to make things safer)
3. We had nowhere that was a hardstanding to put all the other attractions, Caterhams, sporting bears, segways, karts etc


I agree, more displays and more attractions would be a good thing - the planes are off limits as the owners will not allow us near them.... shame, i'd love to look over them too!

I hope that helps - Don't think because i've given reasons that i won't change things for the better if i can, the focus for this event is the charity, maximise revenue, keep everyone safe and raise their profile - that's why we err on the side of caution and keep costs low when we can.
It sounds like penny pinching but every penny spent means one less for them. I will try and get the balance more in the favour of fun though

[Hongkongfooi]

thanks for replying Harsh. You've answered all the points but not a lot looks like changing I guess beyond your control. If I thought it will be the same next year I won't bother going I'm afraid.

[Harsh]

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

thanks for replying Harsh. You've answered all the points but not a lot looks like changing I guess beyond your control. If I thought it will be the same next year I won't bother going I'm afraid.

As i said, i've answered the points based on the reasons for the status quo, in order to help you understand the constraints.

It doesn't mean it won't change, we always listen to the feedback and try and improve things on that basis, so if it's possible to do so we will...

[Ginola]

I would also like to add to SilverSurfers post above,
In that the club stands where not club stands at all the 3 (ours being un-offical) where merely forward car parking spots.
More seriously I would also like to point out the very bad Health and Safety aspect of the unmarked or railed off "step" on the tarmac to the side of the pedestrian walk way leading past the supercar queue to the Lexus stand, where my father fell and broke his finger, bruised hand, arm and cut knee, My better half Wanda also fell on the same piece of tarmac further along the same crowded pedestrian walk way and injured her knee while trying to seek medical attention for my father..

St Johns ambulance members attending to my father said they had several calls for similar incidents on the Saturday but nothing was done to rectify this for the Sunday???
In the time my father was being treated I noticed a further 6 people trip on the same piece of walk way..


I did however enjoy my passenger ride in the Merc SLS AMG,.. many thanks to Pierce for the spirited drive..

I would also ask why no one came back to me with regards to offering to drive for you on circuit, I contacted you several times on Facebook in advance so as I could organise insurance and so forth and was told I would receive an answer before the weekend preceding the event, but no one came back to me.. yet you say you only just had enough vehicles? I did notice a nice fiat 500 going round...

[Harsh]

Originally Posted by Ginola

I would also like to add to SilverSurfers post above,
In that the club stands where not club stands at all the 3 (ours being un-offical) where merely forward car parking spots.
More seriously I would also like to point out the very bad Health and Safety aspect of the unmarked or railed off "step" on the tarmac to the side of the pedestrian walk way leading past the supercar queue to the Lexus stand, where my father fell and broke his finger, bruised hand, arm and cut knee, My better half Wanda also fell on the same piece of tarmac further along the same crowded pedestrian walk way and injured her knee while trying to seek medical attention for my father..

St Johns ambulance members attending to my father said they had several calls for similar incidents on the Saturday but nothing was done to rectify this for the Sunday???
In the time my father was being treated I noticed a further 6 people trip on the same piece of walk way..


I did however enjoy my passenger ride in the Merc SLS AMG,.. many thanks to Pierce for the spirited drive..

I would also ask why no one came back to me with regards to offering to drive for you on circuit, I contacted you several times on Facebook in advance so as I could organise insurance and so forth and was told I would receive an answer before the weekend preceding the event, but no one came back to me.. yet you say you only just had enough vehicles? I did notice a nice fiat 500 going round...

Hi Ginola,

I was unaware of the falls (St Johns Ambulance didn't report anything back to us at all as far as i'm aware) More importantly i'm really sorry to hear about the injuries suffered by your father.

It does sound serious if 6 other people fell whilst you were being treated.... If you can let me know who you contacted or alerted to this situation I will personally seek them out.

The Fiat 500 was a bit of an anomaly...I'm not sure how that got out there.... As i don't know your real name I can't check your messages, feel free to PM it to me so I can go back and find out why you weren't contacted.

[scooby doo]

that fiat 500 reminded me of the that polo on brands track the other weekend lol

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by Harsh

Hi Ginola,

I was unaware of the falls (St Johns Ambulance didn't report anything back to us at all as far as i'm aware) More importantly i'm really sorry to hear about the injuries suffered by your father.

It does sound serious if 6 other people fell whilst you were being treated.... If you can let me know who you contacted or alerted to this situation I will personally seek them out.

The Fiat 500 was a bit of an anomaly...I'm not sure how that got out there.... As i don't know your real name I can't check your messages, feel free to PM it to me so I can go back and find out why you weren't contacted.

Real name is Dave Norris,

I did not alert anyone to the issue as I assumed seeing so many people have the same problem and that I was told by St Johns Abulance that they had attended several incidents previously on the Saturday for exactly the same thing the organisers would already have been made aware, at the time I was concerned for my fathers well being, as he has had a triple heart bypass and went into shock..

[Steve_PPP]

Blimey Dave, not good. Hope your dad is doing OK now mate.

Hope Wanda's knee is alright too, can't have her shirking future picnic duties with a sicknote!






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