Goodwood - June 4th Jubilee Holiday (Show & Track Action)

[Scott.T]

PLANES, GAMES & AUTOMOBILES - JUNE 4th GOODWOOD

SES will be attending this event and want our members to enjoy a great day out.
For this special weekend SES will have a stand present and will also be arranging Track time for members to enjoy a 15 minute session on the Goodwood Circuit.
Due to the special rate offerered to drive this historic circuit, SES intend to pay for this in advance, so please do your very best to fill the slots allocated below. SES will not be making a profit, but obviously we will make a loss if we do not fill the places.

Not only will SES be there, but a whole host of other clubs and activities, including passenger rides in Time Attack Cars (see promotional details in the following post)

Entrance to the Event is Free
Track Sessions (12 available) can be booked through SES payments@southeastscoobies.co.uk, for £40 per 15 minute session.

Attendee's :

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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

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Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 :

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit:

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Session 5 :
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Session 6 :
Session 6 :

For those close to 98dB as selection of Prodrive rear boxes and a 14mm spanner may be available on the day .

[Scott.T]

TITLE
Planes, Games & Automobiles at Goodwood June 4th 0900-1700

THE EVENT
This event will have three main elements focusing on providing a great day out for families and petrol heads alike. On June the 4th come and celebrate the Jubilee with us on a right Royal day out in the heart of Sussex at the wonderful Goodwood circuit/Aerodrome, home to the world famous Festival of Speed and the Revival meeting.
PLANES:
Fly In for aircraft with waived (pre-66)/reduced landing fees
Static Displays including a Spitfire
Royal Navy Historic Flight (TBC)
Helicopter Pleasure Flights courtesy of Elite Helicopters
Chinook Display (TBC)
Lynx Display (TBC)
Fun Cake Fly In
pre-book pleasure flights here: http://elitehelicopters.co.uk/shop/h...nd-automobiles
GAMES:
Jubilee themed day for all the family including a huge picnic table focused on providing as much fun as possible for families and the children:
Treasure Hunt; find the hidden clues to win a ride in a Ferrari or an alternative prize
Cake baking competition with prize cake being supplied by Miranda Gore Brown
Games, Three legged race, Egg and Spoon and Sack races
Vintage bus rides for the children around the circuit
Fancy Dress -1950's style - prize for the winner
Jubilee Street Party, in the spirit of the 1950's
Sports Adventure Stars activities
Bouncy Castles and Fun Runs
Children's craft competition
Jackie James Jewellery
Purbrook Teddy Bears
RNRMCF Crafts
Bouncy Castle
Juni and Jack
Face Painting
Willow Crafts
Military Band
Revival Hats
Craft Stalls
Book Stalls
Cartoonist
Tombola
Tarot

AUTOMOBILES:
A track/dream ride focused element. The car events will include track sessions throughout the day of up 30 cars up to 98 dB with the addition of a further 10 cars running passenger rides including:

Passenger laps in Duncan Grahams Time Attack 800hp Hawkeye Impreza
Passenger laps in Mark Feighans Black Widow Tuning Impreza
Parade laps Fangios 1952 Ferrari to lead the parade laps (TBC)
Photography from the ever popular Nick Williams http://www.nwvt.co.uk/HomePage.aspx
Photography also from CSDigitalAutomotive http://www.csdigitalautomotive.co.uk/
Photos for the passengers by Mark Connell
Beck-Beth Cox Ladybird Racing in attendance
West Sussex Military Vehicle Trust
High speed passenger laps
FF1600 also for sitting in
Virgin Racing F1 car
The Track day:
Sessioned Track day of 15 minutes each allowing for sessions for:-
NOVICES INTERMEDIATES EXPERIENCED
Superb value at only 160 per half day and 300 for a full day
Book an extra driver for as little as 30
Fully marshalled by Goodwood staff
Book a passenger for an extra 10
Helmet hire for 10 per person http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...995/MVR02d.jpg
All cars will be subject to a noise test at a static 98dBs @ 75% revs at a distance of 3 metres and also subject to a drive- by noise test of 96dBs.
Some of the cars attending so far include a McLaren MP4-12C, Aston Martin V12, Ferrari F355 Spider, Ferrari 360; the list is on the rise so please get in touch if you would like to attend in either track or static form.
The Chairman of Virgin Racing has kindly donated F1 memorabilia for auction and raffle. He has also donated Virgin merchandise with the proceeds going to the Henry Surtees Foundation. Rumours of the Virgin Girls attendance will be confirmed in due course. John Surtees has been invited to open the event. Follow this link for a booking form and more info http://www.revivalhats.com/Track%20day.htm
Dream Rides from the Sporting Bears http://www.sportingbears.org.uk/Drea...essRelease.htm
Building on an already proven and exhilarating attraction, the Sporting Bears will be carrying out their famous Dream Rides around a 10 mile route of Goodwood through the beautiful Sussex countryside.

Static Car displays with the children judging best car. If you and your club would like to come along please let me know so we can allocate you your own pitch. Clubs invited, with more to follow to date:
Of course the one and only Piston Heads
Porsche Club GB (up to 20 cars)
Avenue Drivers Club
Wessex Ferrari Owners Club
TVR Owners Club
Club Scuderia
GTROC
WHY
The event is in aid of the Royal Navy & Royal Marines Childrens Fund RNRM Childrens Fund| http://www.rnrmchildrensfund.org.uk/about-us/ with all proceeds going directly to the charity. Formed in 1902 it is one the oldest childrens charity in the UK. They support children with mental and physical disabilities, however due to operations in Afghanistan the support to families due to bereavement has risen sharply over the last few years.
As we can all see from the news, the fatalities have been heavy and the charity is committed to looking after the bereaved children and supports them up to the age of 21. Over the course of 2010/11 we assisted 1600 children at an average cost of 798 per child. Of these:
49% were suffering from a disability or mental or physical illness.
40% were due to the consequence of parental illness or death.
11% due to the impact of parental relationship problems (these are increasingly due to the parents post traumatic stress)

[Scooby_Greg]

Nice one Scott!

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 :
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 :
Session 2 :
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 :

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 :
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Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

Scott can you stick me down for attendance and an AM track slot, if there is plenty of interest in track slots, I will drop out.

[Scott.T]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 :
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 :
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 :

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 :
Session 4 :
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[C. J.]

May be there need to check what we are up to

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 :
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 :

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 :
Session 4 :
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :


If work allows :EVO:

[BIG"E"]

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5.BIG"E"
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 :
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 :
Session 4 :
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[Hongkongfooi]

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5.BIG"E"
6.Hongkongfooi
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 :
Session 4 :
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[Scott.T]

I wasn't gonna bother with insurance, but might now E is in my session....I could always move my session though

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 :
Session 4 :
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[Bolesroor]

Would someone add my name to the list please.


No track time thanks.

[Hongkongfooi]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 :
Session 4 :
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[SpecB]

Put me down for the day plus the Pm track looks like I've missed the fun one

[Bolesroor]

Thanks Hongkongfooi

[Hongkongfooi]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye
Session 4 :
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[simba]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye
Session 4 :
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[Claire_PPP]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. Steve ppp
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye
Session 4 : Steve ppp
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[Gonza]

Count us in!

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. Steve ppp
11. Gonza
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye
Session 4 : Steve ppp
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[BIG"E"]

Out of interest,

do the sessions have different categorises ie novice, intermediate and experienced ?

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

Out of interest,

do the sessions have different categorises ie novice, intermediate and experienced ?

I'd guess that its all the same. However, knowing Goodwood, there won't be many cars on circuit at once so wouldn't expect you to have to worry about traffic issues....

[Scott.T]

Only 10 cars out each session and Goodwood track days are so much more spaced out and quieter compared to Brands.

[SpecB]

Any idea if I can get a noise test before Goodwood - not sure a pro drive box will fit my system

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by BlueBugEye

Any idea if I can get a noise test before Goodwood - not sure a pro drive box will fit my system

I know i managed to get noise tested at one of the Saywell days, know my current exhaust was about 101db. There's another one of those on the 26th May but no use for those going to the Ring. Would have thought they would be able to noise test it on any day the track is in use if you called them in advance?

Another thing we need to know is when they will be doing the noise testing. If everything has to be tested before the first session starts, it won't lend itself to a bit of quick backbox swapping before going on track at your chosen slot.

I sold my prodrive box a couple of years ago for 50 quid

[lupuss]

Sounds great, might even get the family to tag along with the lure of a bouncy castle and book stalls....

J.

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. Steve ppp
11. Gonza
12. Lupuss
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Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye
Session 4 : Steve ppp
Session 5 :
Session 5 :
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

I know i managed to get noise tested at one of the Saywell days, know my current exhaust was about 101db. There's another one of those on the 26th May but no use for those going to the Ring. Would have thought they would be able to noise test it on any day the track is in use if you called them in advance?

Another thing we need to know is when they will be doing the noise testing. If everything has to be tested before the first session starts, it won't lend itself to a bit of quick backbox swapping before going on track at your chosen slot.

I sold my prodrive box a couple of years ago for 50 quid

I have asked the question of the organisers, but I may have to ask Goodwood themselves if they do not know.

[C. J.]

I have Ian the head tack marshals mobile phone number if you would like it ?

I have a 2.5" Prodrive back box for a classic if anyone needs it for the track session

[Scott.T]

Any more takers for the track sessions, as I will be sending payment to the organisers in a few moments. I will then be asking people to cough up for their session.

cheers

[Steve_PPP]

Scott, any feedback regarding the noise testing?

[RobEvo5]

Didn't see this - Thanks Ian for the PM. Count me in......

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by RobEvo5

Didn't see this - Thanks Ian for the PM. Count me in......

On track in the afternoon?

Session 5 ok ?

[BIG"E"]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. Steve ppp
11. Gonza
12. Lupuss
13. RobEvo5
14. Skullfudge
15.



Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye
Session 4 : Steve ppp
Session 5 : RobEvo5
Session 5 : Skullfudge
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[RobEvo5]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

On track in the afternoon?

Session 5 ok ?

If any drop out, I'd prefer an AM session, especially seeing as Mr Fudge will be plowing the road on session 5. But fine with session 5 otherwise.

Cheers mate,

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by RobEvo5

I'd prefer an AM session, especially seeing as Mr Fudge will be plowing the road on session 5. But fine with session 5 otherwise.

Cheers mate,

Don't worry about Mr.Fudge he's a pussy cat....

You can count how times you pass him.

[BIG"E"]

Come peeps on 2 places left for the track

Its only 15 minutes duration.

How about the rest of the Admin team?

[Skullfudge]

Take no notice of that Big E chap.

He's the only guy I know who's lap times are timed using a calender !



I have trouble making the 104 Db limit as I run at 105 ?

[C. J.]

Normally 98 db at goodwood and they test at 3/4 instead of 2/3 of throttle . Also have 3 places around the track for flyby which for any turbo car is a arse!
So if it's 104db may be one of 10days a year your get on goodwood .

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Take no notice of that Big E chap.

He's the only guy I know who's lap times are timed using a calender !



I have trouble making the 104 Db limit as I run at 105 ?

Ive got a bung and a Prodrive BB.: Nod:

Originally Posted by RobEvo5

If any drop out, I'd prefer an AM session, especially seeing as Mr Fudge will be plowing the road on session 5. But fine with session 5 otherwise.

Cheers mate,

I would swop at the drop of a hat. No competition now though

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

I have trouble making the 104 Db limit as I run at 105 ?

Originally Posted by C. J.

So if it's 104db may be one of 10days a year your get on goodwood .

Where did the 104db talk come from? Unfortunately its 98db guys, so backbox swapsies needed.

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Where did the 104db talk come from? Unfortunately its 98db guys, so backbox swapsies needed.

They do have 10 days that they have a higher limit on so as Clive mentioned it I thought that this was to be one .
Any one with a 3" system I have a 600mm long , 100mm round silencer sitting in the garage that if you cut your centre section it can be clamped in place .Dropped mine by 15db , it's for sale as I got a 300mm version as it was too quiet !

[Scott.T]

Payment has now been sent to the Charity organising this event, to cover 12 possible sessions through the day.
Could I please ask that all attendee's for 'Track Time' send ASAP payment of £40 per session to payments@southeastscoobies.co.uk via www.paypal.com

Please ensure you select an appropriate payment method that does not cause SES to incurr any costs.

Please PM me once sent and I will confirm reciept.

Thankyou......

[SUBARMAN]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. Steve ppp
11. Gonza
12. Lupuss
13. RobEvo5
14. Skullfudge
15. Subarman



Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye
Session 4 : Steve ppp
Session 5 : RobEvo5
Session 5 : Skullfudge
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[SpecB]

Payment sent!

Anybody got a Miltek bung I can borrow?

[Scott.T]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. Steve ppp
11. Gonza
12. Lupuss
13. RobEvo5
14. Skullfudge
15. Subarman



Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg PAID
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye PAID
Session 4 : Steve ppp
Session 5 : RobEvo5
Session 5 : Skullfudge
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[RobEvo5]

Payment sent - Scott sent you a PM soon after I initially posted up. I can't make this now, it clashes with my cousins coming down to stay for the weekend.

If you've paid up already ?, then if anyone want's my space/session half price £20

[Mortster]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. Steve ppp
11. Gonza
12. Lupuss
13. RobEvo5
14. Skullfudge
15. Subarman
16. Mortster



Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg PAID
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye PAID
Session 4 : Steve ppp
Session 5 : RobEvo5
Session 5 : Skullfudge
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[Steve_PPP]

Attendee's :

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. StevePPP
11. Gonza
12. Lupuss
13. RobEvo5
14. Skullfudge
15. Subarman
16. Mortster



Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg PAID
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye PAID
Session 4 : StevePPP PAID
Session 5 : RobEvo5
Session 5 : Skullfudge
Session 6 :
Session 6 :

[Ginola]

1. SilverSurfer
2. Scooby_Greg
3. Crowman
4. Nige
5. BIG"E"
6. Hongkongfooi
7. Bolesroor
8. Bluebugeye
9. Simba
10. StevePPP
11. Gonza
12. Lupuss
13. RobEvo5
14. Skullfudge
15. Subarman
16. Mortster
17. Ginola



Track Sessions (AM) - 98dB limit :

Session 1 : Hongkongfooi
Session 1 : Scooby_Greg PAID
Session 2 : Crowman
Session 2 : Nige
Session 3 : SilverSurfer
Session 3 : BIG"E"

Track Sessions (PM) - 98dB limit :

Session 4 : bluebugeye PAID
Session 4 : StevePPP PAID
Session 5 : RobEvo5 - (Possibly Ginola in place - noise test permitting PAID - Rob)
Session 5 : Skullfudge
Session 6 :
Session 6 :



Can pop me down as a regular attendee for this, Rob I will take your track session spot dude, drop me a PM.. need to convince the better half.

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by RobEvo5

Payment sent - Scott sent you a PM soon after I initially posted up. I can't make this now, it clashes with my cousins coming down to stay for the weekend.

If you've paid up already ?, then if anyone want's my space/session half price £20

sending you a PM Rob.