differences between 2004-2005 sti???

bigemp · #1 09-02-2011, 09:41 PM

Is it just the wide track suspension and the dccd the only differences between the two models(uk sti) or is there anything else.
Cheers
Dave

Scott.T · #2 09-02-2011, 09:43 PM

Wheel PCD is 114 instead of 100 to accomodate larger wheel bearings
Suspension was improved IIRC

I think I have a few brochures uptairs, will have a quick speed read.

BIG"E" · #3 09-02-2011, 09:54 PM

I feel a new blob on its way..

bigemp · #4 09-02-2011, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Wheel PCD is 114 instead of 100 to accomodate larger wheel bearings
Suspension was improved IIRC

I think I have a few brochures uptairs, will have a quick speed read.

Thanks scott

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

I feel a new blob on its way..

Yep rob has tried to tempt me to the darkside with his evo but i think i have scooby blood in my veins

Mortster · #5 09-02-2011, 10:21 PM

Seems to be the trend at the mo Classic -> Newage

Jolly Green Monster · #6 09-02-2011, 10:34 PM

cams and heads are better, turbo changed.

obviously the improved interior (dash dials, heater controls), the rear bumper and rear arch extentions etc..

05 is a peach.. 353bhp the highest from totally standard ppp sti 05

Simon

bigemp · #7 09-02-2011, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortster

Seems to be the trend at the mo Classic -> Newage

yep i done the newage back to classic then going back to newage again lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

cams and heads are better, turbo changed.

obviously the improved interior (dash dials, heater controls), the rear bumper and rear arch extentions etc..

05 is a peach.. 353bhp the highest from totally standard ppp sti 05

Simon

thanks simon see i did listen to

you about being a better car to get,just gotta buy one now

Hongkongfooi · #8 10-02-2011, 06:42 AM

2005's are the best....biased?

bigemp · #9 10-02-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

2005's are the best....biased?

yep and yours in right colour as well

Jolly Green Monster · #10 10-02-2011, 09:15 AM

I went for earlier one so I could swap wheels wit my classic and have spares etc and have done that errrmm no I havent done that once doh!

Simon

#11 10-02-2011, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

2005's are the best....biased?

#12 10-02-2011, 09:31 AM

Engine/Suspension/Drivetrain

larger wheel hubs and bearings
larger wheel bolt circle diameter (from 5x100 in 2004 to 5x114.3 in 2005)
17x8 wheels (17x7.5 in 2004)
1 inch wider rear track
revised power steering rack
power steering fluid cooler
stiffer steering rack mounts
3-point rear suspension crossmember
aluminum rear suspension lateral links
helical limited-slip front differential (Suretrac LSD in 2004)
revised DCCD system
new Yaw sensor for DCCD (part of the lateral G sensor)
revised ABS controller
optional short shift kit

Exterior

aerodynamic underbody panels
rear wheel arch flares
redesigned rear bumper
revised exterior badging (black instead of chrome STi badges)
smoked headlight lenses
new paint color - Crystal Grey Metallic

Interior

smaller diameter steering wheel with black center area
redesigned center console
2 cupholder indentations in center console (no more dashboard pop-out)
redesigned center stack with aluminum-look trim
automatic climate control with automatic vent selection feature
80-watt, 6-speaker AM/FM stereo with integral 6-CD changer standard
revised seat cushions with new side bolster material
revised interior door trim
side mirror controls moved to driver's door (from center console)
DCCD controls relocated on center console
upgraded sunvisor material
redesigned anti-glare finish on windshield behind mirror (no more center visor)
Immobilizer key
redesigned keyless remote keyfob
cruise control standard
air filtration system standard
rear passenger cupholders standard
optional auto-dimming mirror with Homelink

#13 10-02-2011, 09:34 AM

So I bought a ****box basically!

XRS · #14 10-02-2011, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin

Engine/Suspension/Drivetrain

larger wheel hubs and bearings
larger wheel bolt circle diameter (from 5x100 in 2004 to 5x114.3 in 2005)
17x8 wheels (17x7.5 in 2004)
1 inch wider rear track
revised power steering rack
power steering fluid cooler
stiffer steering rack mounts
3-point rear suspension crossmember
aluminum rear suspension lateral links
helical limited-slip front differential (Suretrac LSD in 2004)
revised DCCD system
new Yaw sensor for DCCD (part of the lateral G sensor)
revised ABS controller
optional short shift kit

Exterior

aerodynamic underbody panels
rear wheel arch flares
redesigned rear bumper
revised exterior badging (black instead of chrome STi badges)
smoked headlight lenses
new paint color - Crystal Grey Metallic

Interior

smaller diameter steering wheel with black center area
redesigned center console
2 cupholder indentations in center console (no more dashboard pop-out)
redesigned center stack with aluminum-look trim
automatic climate control with automatic vent selection feature
80-watt, 6-speaker AM/FM stereo with integral 6-CD changer standard
revised seat cushions with new side bolster material
revised interior door trim
side mirror controls moved to driver's door (from center console)
DCCD controls relocated on center console
upgraded sunvisor material
redesigned anti-glare finish on windshield behind mirror (no more center visor)
Immobilizer key
redesigned keyless remote keyfob
cruise control standard
air filtration system standard
rear passenger cupholders standard
optional auto-dimming mirror with Homelink

Not sure about all of these updates - is this for a USDM car? Cruise control? Smoked headlight lenses?
Something not listed is the longer, Spec C inspired wheel base (the front wheels were moved forward in the arches).

I went for the new Crystal Grey, but wished I had chosen white

Anger · #15 10-02-2011, 10:16 AM

Even tho mines a 03... Mines had a lot of the upgrades done

stiggy · #16 10-02-2011, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

2005's are the best....biased?

bigemp · #17 10-02-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin

Engine/Suspension/Drivetrain

larger wheel hubs and bearings
larger wheel bolt circle diameter (from 5x100 in 2004 to 5x114.3 in 2005)
17x8 wheels (17x7.5 in 2004)
1 inch wider rear track
revised power steering rack
power steering fluid cooler
stiffer steering rack mounts
3-point rear suspension crossmember
aluminum rear suspension lateral links
helical limited-slip front differential (Suretrac LSD in 2004)
revised DCCD system
new Yaw sensor for DCCD (part of the lateral G sensor)
revised ABS controller
optional short shift kit

Exterior

aerodynamic underbody panels
rear wheel arch flares
redesigned rear bumper
revised exterior badging (black instead of chrome STi badges)
smoked headlight lenses
new paint color - Crystal Grey Metallic

Interior

smaller diameter steering wheel with black center area
redesigned center console
2 cupholder indentations in center console (no more dashboard pop-out)
redesigned center stack with aluminum-look trim
automatic climate control with automatic vent selection feature
80-watt, 6-speaker AM/FM stereo with integral 6-CD changer standard
revised seat cushions with new side bolster material
revised interior door trim
side mirror controls moved to driver's door (from center console)
DCCD controls relocated on center console
upgraded sunvisor material
redesigned anti-glare finish on windshield behind mirror (no more center visor)
Immobilizer key
redesigned keyless remote keyfob
cruise control standard
air filtration system standard
rear passenger cupholders standard
optional auto-dimming mirror with Homelink

Thanks ron could you not have been a bit more specific though

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel

So I bought a ****box basically!

lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tbtstt · #18 10-02-2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin

80-watt, 6-speaker AM/FM stereo with integral 6-CD changer standard

Mine is an '05 (55 plate) and I've got the standard Subaru head unit?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worzel

So I bought a ****box basically!

Hey, you said it...

#19 10-02-2011, 02:40 PM

I've said it many a time too!

Mainly when it was being loaded onto the low loader at the ring 2 years ago, after having a **** and burying itself!

Cross fingers, toes, kick a black cat, eat a gorse bush etc, it's been ok since the rebuild!

But if it was a 2005, would I have had these problems? Apparently not. Nige was right, I should have bought the Evo8

#20 10-02-2011, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel

I've said it many a time too!

Mainly when it was being loaded onto the low loader at the ring 2 years ago, after having a **** and burying itself!

Cross fingers, toes, kick a black cat, eat a gorse bush etc, it's been ok since the rebuild!

But if it was a 2005, would I have had these problems? Apparently not. Nige was right, I should have bought the Evo8

Vince built your engine mate so no more worrys there. The later STI might have more goodies but how many people have seen the underside of your car. I really want to see this being pushed should be good. You call me secret squirel.

Proper Q car Mr Worzel

Hongkongfooi · #21 10-02-2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige

Vince built your engine mate so no more worrys there. The later STI might have more goodies but how many people have seen the underside of your car. I really want to see this being pushed should be good. You call me secret squirel.

Proper Q car Mr Worzel

I might have been a sneaky beaky and popped my head underneath as well

asperformance · #22 10-02-2011, 07:23 PM

if we're talking UK spec STi's then the most obvious difference you have all missed is the 2.5 rather than 2.0 lump.............

C. J. · #23 10-02-2011, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige

Vince built your engine mate so no more worrys there. The later STI might have more goodies but how many people have seen the underside of your car. I really want to see this being pushed should be good. You call me secret squirel.

Proper Q car Mr Worzel

Think there is a bigger secret squirrel than you nige that is on the mod team

Scott.T · #24 10-02-2011, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asperformance

if we're talking UK spec STi's then the most obvious difference you have all missed is the 2.5 rather than 2.0 lump.............

LOL....but we were not !!! Although granted you can pick up an early Hawkeye on a 2005 '55' plate

XRS · #25 11-02-2011, 09:50 AM

No, the 2.5 motor didn't come over here as standard until the Hawkeye, but I assumed he just meant the Blobs

bigemp · #26 11-02-2011, 10:26 AM

Oh well off to look at the scooby i was talking about(fingers crossed)

#27 11-02-2011, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigemp

Oh well off to look at the scooby i was talking about(fingers crossed)

Good luck

I hope it's a goodun!

#28 11-02-2011, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige

Vince built your engine mate so no more worrys there. The later STI might have more goodies but how many people have seen the underside of your car. I really want to see this being pushed should be good. You call me secret squirel.

Proper Q car Mr Worzel

I have no doubts about the car now mate

Daz Davies block, RCM bits throughout, Vince doing the build all leads to a good one, or should.

As for being a secret squirrel........ I may have a trick bit or two......I learnt it all from you master!

Anger · #29 11-02-2011, 10:57 AM

We all know what Nige is upto... We just dont comment because its an Evo

Anger · #30 11-02-2011, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigemp

Oh well off to look at the scooby i was talking about(fingers crossed)

Go jdm mate

#31 11-02-2011, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anger

We all know what Nige is upto... We just dont comment because its an Evo

#32 11-02-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C. J.

Think there is a bigger secret squirrel than you nige that is on the mod team

On the mod team & not admin? Mmmm i was thinking Crowman might be up to something as he has been really quiet. Not sure now?????

#33 11-02-2011, 02:41 PM

No mate, not an admin.

I know the score, going to be an awesome bit of kit once it's finished.

Anger · #34 11-02-2011, 03:16 PM

Dukeboy... Hardly a secret lol

Moley_WRX · #35 11-02-2011, 03:43 PM

So do the '03 models have the same engine internals as the '05 models? (UK)

#36 11-02-2011, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anger

Dukeboy... Hardly a secret lol

It was to those that didn't know!

Mortster · #37 11-02-2011, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige

On the mod team & not admin? Mmmm i was thinking Crowman might be up to something as he has been really quiet. Not sure now?????

On the loo all day??

#38 11-02-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortster

On the loo all day??

I have had the full gruesome story this afternoon at our admin meet.

His sphincter look like a punnet of crushed raspberries apparently!

#39 11-02-2011, 05:51 PM

Now i know! Bloody hell some very quick Bugeye's on here now.

C. J. · #40 11-02-2011, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anger

Dukeboy... Hardly a secret lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige

Now i know! Bloody hell some very quick Bugeye's on here now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel

It was to those that didn't know!

Think nige had to do some research so i'd say its not common knowledge !

Anger · #41 11-02-2011, 06:11 PM

I only know from posts on here... Wasnt hard to figure out lol

DukeBoy · #42 11-02-2011, 08:03 PM

So what am i missing then??? lol

RobEvo5 · #43 11-02-2011, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigemp

Oh well off to look at the scooby i was talking about(fingers crossed)

What was it like ?. Did you get it ? pics/spec?

bigemp · #44 11-02-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel

Good luck

I hope it's a goodun!

Thanks and yes it was a credit to the last owner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anger

Go jdm mate

too late lol!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moley_WRX

So do the '03 models have the same engine internals as the '05 models? (UK)

thanks for sorting out insurance today

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobEvo5

What was it like ?. Did you get it ? pics/spec?

Yes got it near enough mint inside and out and you know im fussy rob lol,nothing major mods,uprated fuel pump,prodrive sports cat and remapped by duncan(race dynamix) 5 months ago making approx 330_340 bhp he said(spoke to him before i brought it and he said it was a good one with no problems) and you wanted a pic so just went out and took one lol.

bigemp · #45 11-02-2011, 08:38 PM

and no skip jokes thanks!!!!

DukeBoy · #46 11-02-2011, 08:39 PM

Think we should start a poll as to who will sell first......

Rob's Evo?
Dave's Blob?

Hongkongfooi · #47 11-02-2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeBoy

Think we should start a poll as to who will sell first......

Rob's Evo?
Dave's Blob?

No contest....Rob is in the premier league of car swappage!

bigemp · #48 11-02-2011, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeBoy

Think we should start a poll as to who will sell first......

Rob's Evo?
Dave's Blob?

it will deffo be robs evo 1st even the mrs says im not as bad as him lol but he nearly swayed me to buy it when he took me out for a spin on sunday but i stayed strong to the scooby!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

No contest....Rob is in the premier league of car swappage!

rob is the alex ferguson off car sales

maybe by now he has added another

to his collection whoops maybe i shouldnt have said that

Steve_PPP · #49 11-02-2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeBoy

So what am i missing then??? lol

Enough time to actually get the new engine in the car?

RobEvo5 · #50 11-02-2011, 10:22 PM

Looking Good Dave, gone for a WR Blue this time then. You've not had a blue one yet so there's a first lol. Looks like some sensible mods and will make for a nice daily driver. Sounds like a nice one.... Enjoy.

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