Worzels 2.5 shopping list

Cheers Steve.

I will have some bits from you for sure mate.

You have pm

[C. J.]

Any news ?

No... None........... getting a bit peed off now!

I am not pissed off really, but I do wish he'd get cracking a bit. I'm lucky I've got the second car really. And in fairness I did mention that fact and said I wasn't busting a gut to get it back, so he has probably used that comment to his advantage, as would I.

I wouldn't pull it from him after seeing and feeling the job he's done with Niges.

He explained the other day that he has been innundated with work and had some mares. And that he would definately get my engine out by the end of the week. I did explain that I need to know whats what asap just so that I can order the bit's I need and then arrange the mapping (that's the crucial one really). Lets hope it all comes together soon. I'm sure it will.

Love and peace my bro's

[C. J.]

Is that this week or next just so its clear ?

He was looking to have it out by end of play today, so hopefully can get the info on Monday.

[C. J.]

sounds good and hope it all goes well

Just spoken with Vince, we are rocking and rolling now. Going down there next week with the shopping list to arrange for the parts.

[C. J.]

Happy shopping

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by worzel

Just spoken with Vince, we are rocking and rolling now. Going down there next week with the shopping list to arrange for the parts.

So what is his diagnosis for the engine??

In common tongue?


Foooooooooooooooooooked!

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by worzel

In common tongue?


Foooooooooooooooooooked!

but which bits ?

Come on Scott, You know Worzel calls all bits under the bonett magic.

It's an oily metal bit

[666subaru]

Hope you get it sorted you have window tints on the 8th August

Originally Posted by worzel

It's an oily metal bit

I love the way you put things.

Ive only just noticed some of my replys have been removed??? What's going on? Can one of the addmins let me know please. Im quite new to all this forum stuff. I have no idea what has gone on in the past but i dont like whats going on now

Nige

I will get this looked into. This seems to be happening a bit too regularly for my liking. Any removals should go through proper channels, through the "Cemetry" section which only mods and admin can see.

I will get the team on it and get to the bottom of this.

Steve

Nige

This issue has been dealt with now. apologies from the team for the reply removals.

Steve

[BIG"E"]

Is the 2.5 being fitted then??

it should be started this week I hope.

[iain1502]

I'm looking forward to seeing the finish product.

Me too mate, me too.

I'll be like a dog with 2 cocks

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by worzel

I'll be like a dog with 2 cocks

sniffing every bitches arse in sight???

[Cath]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

sniffing every bitches arse in sight???

[Scooby Wez]

Had my car serviced yesterday and yours looked well underway mate Shame mine did not go to plan

I'm going down to see it today

What happened then Wez?

[Scooby Wez]

Went in for a service all the oils etc and a set of braided brake lines.All went well with the service but when Vince fitted the lines(last one as well) it had a split in it I got these from Japan so no come back it has left the car with 3 braided brake lines and one standard.I have ordered a set of Hel's now(as i do not trust the other lines) so saving £20 has now cost me £50 extra you live and learn

Thats a bugger mate.

Gave Vince my shopping list today! GULP

I am going to get it done once and properly though, thats the way to look at it.

That lovely fresh built bottom end has to be split. With the rod'& pistons your useing it should be very strong. On the downside it will empty your pocket On the plus side it will go like hot **** off a shovel. Oi secret sam what have you done on the rear suspention? Look's very trick Talk about neg camber

There might be a little bit dialed in there

They are bloody good coilovers mate those Cusco zero 2's. And although she sits firm on the ground with little or no roll, those who saw my extravegant lane change going to the ring will know what I mean It does need raising by half a turn though, just a smidge of rub on the tyres.

[C. J.]

What rods & pistons have you gone for ?

Originally Posted by worzel

There might be a little bit dialed in there

They are bloody good coilovers mate those Cusco zero 2's. And although she sits firm on the ground with little or no roll, those who saw my extravegant lane change going to the ring will know what I mean It does need raising by half a turn though, just a smidge of rub on the tyres.

I dont just mean the Cusco's. There are other trick bit's on the back end Sssshh. I wont let you secret's out mate Would of been good to see it going around the ring with that set up.

Cheers mate. It is a good set up for sure. It felt absolutely planted.

I have been looking at turbo's on the Andy Forrest Site. I am torn between the TD05 20g and this:

[img]http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg137/worzelg2/Turbo.jpg[/img]

[Anger]

Scogsy on Surrey had to send his AF20G back twice last year after it failed

Came back in a certain ****e ebay sellers box

I have had no issues with my 20g i bought from Scooby clinic . I think Anger has tried the 20g in the past. Worzel have a chat with Anger about the Md / turbo's. There more money & may suite your engine build as your's will take more power.

[2-jaffacake-tone]

running the AFP5-20 would be a good thing running a larger turbo than you need, It means u have more air than u need, which means u can be more conservative on the timing,and also your not trying to get every last horse out of a limited amount of air, u can just throw more air at the problem, which means overall it should prove more reliable. and also if engine is future proof you can just wind it up a notch
only issuse is lagg

imo if funds alow md321T. on a 2.5 is a wepon!!

Cheers for the input guys!

I have thought about the MD321

Then you start looking elsewhere and confuse yourself even more!

Help!!!

Just to reiterate my plans, I am staying topmount, I am putting in the following: forged pistons and rods (overkill on the rods I know, but don't want to go back in there EVER again!) 650 injectors, RCM uprated oil pump / oil cooling / gaskets.

Things to be confirmed: Head porting (dependant on RCM advice), Turbo (need your help guys PLEASE!!)

One other thing I have heard mentioned, is something that Granby has for sale, a winged sump! Worth getting? Please advise again guys.

My target is a rock solid 400bhp, not after big gains as I said when this all started. I don't want to go front mount. Just reliable, bullet proof 400bhp all day!

With that in mind, am I going overboard with the turbo? Should I just go 20g? Below is another screen shot from scooby clinic with many choices. I can't thank you all enough for the advice, it really is very helpful. Thanks to you all

[img]http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w266/worzelg/Turbos.jpg[/img]

[2-jaffacake-tone]

head porting is a bit ott for 380-400 imo

Thats what I was told elsewhere too.

Thanks for the back up on that one Tone. I reckon I can safely remove that expense from the list Which means I might be able to afford my defi's now.

Anybody know of any for sale before I start hunting?

[C. J.]

If you can afford it Id go md321t or t+
Grandbys sump is an arc and they dont fit very well with standard headers or the laterial ones speaking to dyney about it .
20g will give you 400 but not in the same way a md321t or t+ will , if your doing it once id go t or t+ and some laterial headers with the venturi
Thats what i'd do from asking around .
On the rods and pistons i was asking as i now have a 2.5 block and thinking of a bit of discount on two sets !
Already got apr head bolts and rcm oil pump and a oil baffle .
Let us know !
Also laterial will turn your pinks into 850's for £150 +vat

[2-jaffacake-tone]

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/general-techni ... turbo.html

[Scott.T]

Andy Forrest's is a 20G, just with his own branding and fetling.
20G will be a good choice on the TMIC, MD321 a better one.

I'm not 100% up on the compressor maps for the 2 turbo's but assume the MD321 is larger.
The TMIC flow and cooling efficiency is better suited to the slightly larger turbo as you can run less pressure for the same HP, due to the greater airflow from the larger unit.

Too much pressure on the STi TMIC will split/blow the intercooler at the crimpings.

Both turbos will have a good resale value if you decide to move on at any point in the future.

Sump is overkill imho, if it were a 100% track tool doing alot of track work then maybe a consideration.

Harvey Smith also supplies 20G's for around £750.

[Scott.T]

Have you looked at the Garrett's on the RCM site......just to throw a few more into the mix...

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Have you looked at the Garrett's on the RCM site......just to throw a few more into the mix...

Yes I have mate

It is the one bit of kit I want to get right. And the MD 321 T seems to be the turbo of choice so far so I can't ignore it.

What of the Garrett ones would be the right one? Open to suggestions on this.

I have got a week or so to choose the right one, so happy to mull it over in here

Thanks again for the input guys. It is good to have the help

[Anger]

Im fitting my MD321T tomorrow weather permitting

Then its remap time on wednesday

Originally Posted by Anger

Im fitting my MD321T tomorrow weather permitting

Then its remap time on wednesday

Looking forward to seeing your results

Originally Posted by Anger

Im fitting my MD321T tomorrow weather permitting

Then its remap time on wednesday

What did you pay for yours mate and where from?

I have just saved a couple of hundred pounds on my defi's (Thanks Martyn ) so I reckon I might as well get the best turbo I can

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by worzel

Yes I have mate

It is the one bit of kit I want to get right. And the MD 321 T seems to be the turbo of choice so far so I can't ignore it.

What of the Garrett ones would be the right one? Open to suggestions on this.

I have got a week or so to choose the right one, so happy to mull it over in here

Thanks again for the input guys. It is good to have the help

I would just talk to Ollie at RCM and tell him your thoughts to compare Garrett to MD321, then do the same with Mark at Lateral.

Are you getting the heads matched to the 2.5 block ?