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Old 16-05-2011, 06:35 PM
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A lot more damage than expected, so no chance it will be ready unless a miracle happens

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Old 16-05-2011, 06:40 PM
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It doesn't look good in there James.

I would lend you the Foz but I don't think the brakes would be up to the ring!!
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Old 16-05-2011, 06:51 PM
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Old 16-05-2011, 07:01 PM
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Old 16-05-2011, 07:03 PM
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Old 16-05-2011, 07:16 PM
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Old 16-05-2011, 07:22 PM
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A lot more damage than expected, so no chance it will be ready unless a miracle happens

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No not another one.


Mate I am gutted for you.


So do you require a complete rebuild?

None of your mates got a spare engine?
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Old 16-05-2011, 07:37 PM
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James, thats real bad luck

You still coming along in another car (or shotgun with someone) for the beers and laughs i hope?
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Old 16-05-2011, 07:39 PM
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At least there breaking over here, rather than over there.
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Not good news buddy, hope you get the problems sorted very soon.
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Old 16-05-2011, 08:44 PM
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Old 16-05-2011, 10:41 PM
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Oh f o o k i n g hell mate.
really turning into the ring trip from hell for everyone.

I hope it doesnt end up costing you too much mate.
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Old 17-05-2011, 09:59 AM
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Old 17-05-2011, 10:35 AM
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Old 17-05-2011, 11:43 AM
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By the head gasket going... It has saved the rest of the engine by the sounds of it, the list is still growing tho
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Old 17-05-2011, 12:15 PM
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Thats proper poo mate.

So whats the score then? What else have you mangled?
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Old 17-05-2011, 12:15 PM
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That is not good news James,hope you are get sorted

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Old 17-05-2011, 12:32 PM
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Bearings... Crank and the heads might be dead aswell
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Old 17-05-2011, 12:41 PM
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Old 17-05-2011, 02:24 PM
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Old 17-05-2011, 03:18 PM
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Old 17-05-2011, 03:26 PM
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Old 17-05-2011, 04:08 PM
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Old 17-05-2011, 04:17 PM
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Old 17-05-2011, 04:52 PM
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Not good - Maybe I'll get Simon to map mine again to a nice 200BHP - in fact I may remove the turbo just to be sure!
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Old 17-05-2011, 05:38 PM
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Needs a whole new engine... thinking of breaking it at the mo as just cant be assed to spend any more money on it


Will be going to Germany in the 22b
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Old 17-05-2011, 05:53 PM
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Kin 'ell James, not another one.

I have a mate that has a 2.2 CBD and a shed load of other goodies he is just about to put on the 22B forum.
Engine is all Jun built in Japan and he won't want silly money.
He has a heap of proper parts that has amassed from years of racing Scoobs.

If you want to know more phone me 07867 887827 as I am going over his place tonight to collect a trailer from him and you can view all.
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Kin 'ell James, not another one.

I have a mate that has a 2.2 CBD and a shed load of other goodies he is just about to put on the 22B forum.
Engine is all Jun built in Japan and he won't want silly money.
He has a heap of proper parts that has amassed from years of racing Scoobs.

If you want to know more phone me 07867 887827 as I am going over his place tonight to collect a trailer from him and you can view all.
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Old 17-05-2011, 05:57 PM
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Well at least thats one piece of good news.
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Will be going to Germany in the 22b
you have been offered an engine to use !
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Gutted for you James, I've probably missed a post or thread, but when/where did it happen ?. Was it on the strip, track or road use, and assume it was taking some punishment when it went.
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Old 18-05-2011, 09:16 AM
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The head gasket has gone in Emma's scoob too
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Old 18-05-2011, 12:12 PM
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you have been offered an engine to use !
If it was just small roads miles i would Chris, but i dont want to do over 1500miles on an engine that isnt mine, some of it pushing the car on track, if anything happens it will add to my bill that i cant afford as it is

Even thought about getting rid of the car the other night..

I need to get away and enjoy myself and come to a decission on what to do when i get back
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Old 18-05-2011, 12:15 PM
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I'm sure we will all help you enjoy yourself mate.

Like we have said many previous posts and threads about the trip. A good crack and a good drink with a bunch of mates.

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Old 18-05-2011, 12:54 PM
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Old 18-05-2011, 01:02 PM
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don't give up on the car mate....its too good and you'll regret it

Tim is right James, rubbish luck, but every cloud and all that, hopefully you will be able to build what you want out of it. Its a great car, stick with it.
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Get the ring over and return with a fresh approach James. Your car is tooooo nice to sell.
One of the nicest new ages I've seen.

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James don't do this you will regret it at end,just chill out and re-think about that...

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Old 18-05-2011, 06:22 PM
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[QUOTE=Anger;87344]Needs a whole new engine... thinking of breaking it at the mo as just cant be assed to spend any more money on it


No! Dont break it mate it not worth it in the long run. Sell a bit here & there. The money never mounts up as you tend to spend as you sell a part. Germany a Few beers & a re think.
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Not good James..

As said my sti8 engine is there if you wanted to use it..

It is just lucky the head gasket went to alert of the other issues.. obviously previous owner of engine bits was diddled with fundemental issues which you are now facing the bill for

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Get the ring over and return with a fresh approach James. Your car is tooooo nice to sell.
One of the nicest new ages I've seen.

Often there are good outcomes from mishaps.
Agreeeeeeeeeed...

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Old 18-05-2011, 10:24 PM
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Well Stew has priced up my spec for a new engine... now to rob a bank
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Old 18-05-2011, 10:27 PM
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Not good James..

As said my sti8 engine is there if you wanted to use it..

It is just lucky the head gasket went to alert of the other issues.. obviously previous owner of engine bits was diddled with fundemental issues which you are now facing the bill for

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After a new build has so many problems, it does get you a bit down

But after a good chat with Stew today its helped me to think clearly again
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After a new build has so many problems, it does get you a bit down

But after a good chat with Stew today its helped me to think clearly again
Good man spoken like a proper trooper! It is gutting when your pride & joy end's up in bit's & it's not your own doing!
Is there any comeback on the guy who built the engine for Greig? It cant of done many miles & it's not been in yours that long. Might be worth a try mate.
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Be interesting to see what the original engine builder has to say.
The mistakes made are unbelievable and the damage for an engine with 2000 miles on it, aswell as SMG finding a crack in the block
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The mistakes made are unbelievable and the damage for an engine with 2000 miles on it, aswell as SMG finding a crack in the block
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Old 19-05-2011, 06:34 PM
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When he is on land lol


I should have just got Stew at TFS Racing to build the engine from the start, but when the one popped up on here it looked and sounded perfect for what i wanted....


Picking up a 2.2 CDB tomorrow
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Old 19-05-2011, 06:49 PM
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Picking up a CDB tomorrow ...... does that mean that the trooper will be fixed in time? Fingers crossed for ya mate.
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Old 19-05-2011, 07:27 PM
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No chance mate, changed my booking from the trooper to the 22b
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your making the right choice with a 2.35 , best all rounder
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Old 19-05-2011, 07:54 PM
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Are there any good engine builders out there????
These threads seem to be getting more common


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Old 19-05-2011, 09:11 PM
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A difficult situation when this happens.

Regarding the engine builder & putting it right for nothing, I'll be amazed if that happens. I've known toooooo many engines to let go and the ONLY ones that will receive any form of compassion or financial reward are the ones that have a good bond & a close relationship with the builder/tuner.


Trouble being that many engine builders are governed by customers budgets.
A 500 Bhp lump seems the figure that many want at the moment and there are probably over 1000 combinations of achieving that power ranging from a few grand to 30 grand.

If poor assembly can be proven they may not have an option ? as it's often component failures that cause the issue.
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Old 20-05-2011, 09:20 AM
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Thats all very true Clive. James's problem is that he didn't actually spec the build and instead bought what should have been a properly built engine. If James had specced the engine, it would have been done properly, as I'm sure many people would vouch. He doesn't do things by halves.

I think that in this case it would be incredibly difficult to know where to apportion any blame, or if in fact you even could. Although looking at some of the build errors, they should never have happened. We can't comment on the specs given to the builders though, as the parts for the build list may have been not top notch. Speaking with James yesterday, he was saying there are parts that him & Stew can't even recognise the make on?

It's all a bit of a minefield really in this case, unfortunately, James is footing the bill for whichever one of the parties involved made a hash of.

Clive, I have been on the end of some snide comments in the past during my engine build. I'm sure you know the ones "just throwing money at it" kind of comments and much worse. But what I did do was spec as highly as I possibly could, I set myself a 420/420 bhp/nm target that was easily achievable (allegedly ) and now I'm there I'm a very happy man. I know I have probably overspent on several occasions and the bit's I have bought are capable of much more, but I wanted bulletproof all the way and am 100% stopping at that.

That's probably set me up for blowing mine up now!!!
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Old 20-05-2011, 09:49 AM
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The car at the moment has had well over 40k spent on it by me and the previous owners i know, everything apart from the engine is there to make it a very good car.. Why this time im building an engine to my own spec with Stew at TFS


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mmmm I feel for James on this one.
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Like you say James, you live and learn. You know however, that your spec on the engine will make it the absolute nuts.

I am really looking forward to seeing it back out on the road.
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Old 20-05-2011, 11:19 AM
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It will be back better than ever
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bugger james i didn't realise it was that bad, glad your getting sorted and at least with stew building it now you know it'll be spot on.
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Only just spotted this thread on here; didn't realise quite how down you were about the car.

Glad to see you've talked yourself round and the Trooper will live again though!
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