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Old 17-07-2013, 10:03 PM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/subaru-wrx...item232d369e9f

Only just up the road from me. What do we think?
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Old 17-07-2013, 10:06 PM
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Is it my phone or is it missing info or a link?
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Old 17-07-2013, 10:12 PM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/subaru-wrx...item232d369e9f

Strange I was sure I posted it
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Old 17-07-2013, 10:34 PM
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Over 3k reserve not met? I personally wouldn't pay that much for a 2002 (not keen on the front lights being a bugeye), even if it is an sti. But its up to you. Go have a good look around it, someones description can be very different to the truth. I think theres better out there.

He may want 4k reserve which from what I've seen on some of your posts you have more to spend than what you say so for 5-6k you could get a very nice classic, nice bug wrx in good condition or an average bug sti.

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Old 17-07-2013, 10:53 PM
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The looks don't concern me really. Looking on hurst cars they have a similar car and milage for 5300, so if it went for x4k private that would seem right to me?
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Old 17-07-2013, 10:57 PM
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bUgeye

Looks tidy that, be interesting to see what it'll go for. Won't cost much to sort the paint on the scoop and reasonable mileage for an 11 year old car....

edit/ just seen there was two threads so i've merged them
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Old 17-07-2013, 11:27 PM
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4k for a 2002? Hmmm I wouldnt spend that much when theres much more out there.
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Old 18-07-2013, 07:55 AM
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Its a Prodrive STI though, with the correct front bumper, I say price is about right.

Loos nice, only thing I never understand is the carpet? Didn't STI's come with a Blue one? Or was that later?
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Old 18-07-2013, 09:27 AM
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Cool I'm going to go see it! Any one around that way willing to come along? I'll supply the ice creams and a beer or two?
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Old 18-07-2013, 09:32 AM
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Am I right in thinking the steering wheel normally has Sti graphics as that one looks like all the wrx ones I've seen?
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Old 18-07-2013, 09:42 AM
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Am I right in thinking the steering wheel normally has Sti graphics as that one looks like all the wrx ones I've seen?
No, thats the original correct steering wheel. The STI logo'd ones started in 2003 with the blobeye.

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4k for a 2002? Hmmm I wouldnt spend that much when theres much more out there.
As Mortster says, its a Prodrive edition STI, and worth quite a bit more than a WRX of the same age (unfortunately ). I actually think it could fetch closer to £5k if someone out there is after one. The car would break for way more than £4k.....

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Loos nice, only thing I never understand is the carpet? Didn't STI's come with a Blue one? Or was that later?
Believe the blue carpet also started in 2003 with the blob?
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Old 18-07-2013, 09:46 AM
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So if I could get it sub £4.5k I'd be doing well? Really want one now, ive been patient enough : )
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I stand corrected. Good luck with it mate I would come with you but I dont know enough about them yet, I'd just be there for the beers and icecream lol.
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Old 18-07-2013, 10:21 AM
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I would say £4.5-5k would still be a good purchase price, if thats the car your after?

Parkers Guide prices
2.0 WRX STi 4d (03)
Original Price£25,995
Franchised Dealer £4,635
Independent Dealer £4,235
Private Good £3,985
Private Poor £3,285
Part Exchange £3,540
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A mileage of 90,000 (average for age)

A quick look around for same(ish) spec suggests £5k+ some even with more mileage asking for similar money! so selling above book price (as always)

Only query I would have would be the 5 previous owners!! current owner makes 6 and you then become 7th?? would be good to check length of ownership of last few keepers...alongside the history.

Looks good though and worth a visit with some cash in your pocket

Start face to face offer at £3.8k if bids have not raised on eBay, if its not accepted, bid the same price on ebay via your phone whilst there, to see if it goes past the reserve!! do this for every offer, should get it for his lowest price then

good luck with it, does look nice and decent bug sti's are a bit thin on the ground.
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Old 18-07-2013, 01:54 PM
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Thanks pieman. Very helpful. Yeah see what you mean about the owners.

Sorry don't quite understand what you mean by 'do this for every offer, should get it for his lowest price' ? Do you mean if he doesn't accept 3.8k, bid up on the phone in front of him? Am I being thick?

Il let you know how I get on if he ever calls me back to arrange a time!
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Think you'll find that's exactly what Ron means mate, as soon as you what the reserve price is, that's what the bloke will take for it, anything higher than that is just a bonus for him, make sure you see/hear it starting from cold.
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Ok cheers, il be going in a few hours so il let you know how it goes
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Old 18-07-2013, 04:32 PM
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Yep

make him a good starting offer over what the current bid is on eBay.... I'd say you'd be happy (if the car is genuine) to start at £3.8k.

If he says no to the offer! place the same bid on eBay (assuming you can from a mobile device)

If the bid lifts his "reserve not met" then you know that he would be willing to let it go for that amount......start waving the cash in his face and be prepared to walk away

If the bid still comes up as "reserve not met" then you can increase your offer to him accordingly......say £200+ do the same as before for each offer you make him...... you should be able to find his lowest selling price and hopefuly get yourself a good deal.

Remember to push the "no guarantee that the car will sell on eBay" or "that the winning bidder will have it"



If he's upfront and tells you his 'lowest' 'best' price, you can check it by placing a lower bid on eBay........

Good luck with the viewing, often overlooked the bugeye's but theres some stunning examples out there to be had........and we all know a couple of excellent examples with SES
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Old 18-07-2013, 08:42 PM
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Cheers pieman I'll remember the negotiating skills for the next one.

Well viewing didn't go very well. There was a stamped service history but no documentation supporting it. The chap had only had it a few months and said it was too big so he was selling.
I took my torch with me and had a look under the drivers side front wheel and what I assume is the chassis/subframe ( box section metal) had rusted through badly. I was asking the chap about the cambelt and he didn't seem to know much about it. So my next inspection was the engine bay. Unsure which belt it was (cam or auxiliary ) had perished badly and had a big tear and gauge in it! Was quite lucky the belt stopped where it was so I could see the damage. Also the belt was perished through age.
To be fair I don't think the seller knew and seemed pretty peed of as he bought it of his friend whose a mechanic at sva imports. Apparently he was assured the cam belt was ok!

So I decided to call an end to it there and wished him all the best. Nice bloke but the car wasn't what I was expecting, tbh I was quite disappointed as had a good feeling about it.
Btw he told me his reserve price and it was £5200.
Never mind the search continues.

So is corrosion a major issue on the subarus? Am I wrong to expect supporting documentation supporting services?
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Old 18-07-2013, 08:49 PM
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It might have been the U Frame. You don't really need it, it was added to make the care to pass crash tests or something. A few run without them anyway, as they weigh a ton...and rust.
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Old 18-07-2013, 08:52 PM
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Usually if it has a service book which is being stamped you shouldn't get any supporting documentation as that is what the stamp book is for. Obviously if he had extra work done at a garage you should expect to have receipts.

As with corrosion I dont know to be honest. I just know once rust starts its very hard and expensive to repair.

The belt you probably saw would of been the aux belt(s) and not the cambelt. Just because the aux belt is in bad condition doesnt always mean the cambelt will be the same, a lot of people just change cambelt without anything else. Usually you should change a cambelt kit either every 5 years or 60k miles whichever comes first. Aux belt is cheap and easy to do.

All in all sounds like you made the right choice. I'd always have a suspicion of someone selling a car who hasn't had it for long without a good reason...

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Old 18-07-2013, 08:53 PM
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Any pics of it morster so I can be sure for the next car I check ?
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Tried to type quickly on my phone but Mortster still beat me lol.
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Old 18-07-2013, 08:57 PM
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Usually if it has a service book which is being stamped you shouldn't get any supporting documentation as that is what the stamp book is for. Obviously if he had extra work done at a garage you should expect to have receipts.

As with corrosion I dont know to be honest. I just know once rust starts its very hard and expensive to repair.

The belt you probably saw would of been the aux belt(s) and not the cambelt. Just because the aux belt is in bad condition doesnt always mean the cambelt will be the same, a lot of people just change cambelt without anything else. Usually you should change a cambelt kit either every 5 years or 60k miles whichever comes first. Aux belt is cheap and easy to do.

All it all sounds like you made the right choice.

Yeah cheers,

It must be my hoarder qualities as I keep every bill and receipt! is this unusual as most cars I've bought hae had a stack of bills and invoices with them.?

The belt (if it helps in identifying it )was at the top left highest point if standing in front of the engine bay looking straight on.
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Old 18-07-2013, 09:04 PM
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The belt (if it helps in identifying it )was at the top left highest point if standing in front of the engine bay looking straight on.
It'll be the aux belt which drives the alternator and power steering pump (the belt on the right is for the air con). The cambelt cannot be seen when just looking at the engine as its under plastic covers. The cam belt runs right across the front of the engine inside the black plastic belt cover:
http://www.sunspares.com.au/sunspare...ine%20EJ20.jpg

Aux belt is easy and cheap to change so no problem but if its that bad, what else has been neglected?
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Ive found that if the person is into cars they will keep every little receipt they ever get. Someone who doesnt care wont and will misplace them. The more bits of paper you keep the better and easier it will be to sell. Even if you do work yourself still keep receipts of the parts.

It depends if it has aircon or not, if it does it should have two belts at the front. Cant remember exactly but the left belt should run alternator and power steering pump (not sure on the power steering pump) and the right one should do aircon.

The cambelt will be found behind them under the black covers..
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Old 18-07-2013, 09:25 PM
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Ah well that's good to know Ta.

Well I've kinda decided that that one isn't for me now so onwards and upwards.
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I stick up a photo tomorrow, changed my mine as it was rusting, but I kept it, behind the stables somewhere. I'll hack it out of the nettles.
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I stick up a photo tomorrow, changed my mine as it was rusting, but I kept it, behind the stables somewhere. I'll hack it out of the nettles.

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you wouldn't go far wrong with Rich's if you fancied a nice classic
http://www.southeastscoobies.co.uk/v...ad.php?t=16034
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you wouldn't go far wrong with Rich's if you fancied a nice classic
http://www.southeastscoobies.co.uk/v...ad.php?t=16034
Does look a nice car that. Is that what the early ones are worth? I was really after a new age tbh. Although that does look a stunner.
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Does look a nice car that. Is that what the early ones are worth? I was really after a new age tbh. Although that does look a stunner.
I'll have to break down an answer to that.....

"Does look a nice car that" ....it is and much improved since its been in Rich's hands.

"Is it what early ones are worth?" ....some, Yes! theres a huge market out there, loads across the whole price range, cheap to overpriced! this one is at the higher end of the pricing range but IMHO it deserves to be there or there abouts. Its close to the figure I would have advertised it for if it were mine

"I was really after a new age tbh".... nothing against that and you could get a newer car for similar money no doubt. Worth having a chat with the recent converts from newage to classic.... Lucky, Hongkongfooi and Silversurfer, all seem to be happy with the change!

Although it does look a stunner..... it is and those that know Rich will know its an honest car and sale, which is worth how much when your buying?

Not trying to push a sale for a mate but anyone looking for a nice clean and well looked after impreza could do worse than consider Rich's. Yes, its a considered purchase at the price compaired to a flooded market but you do honestly get what you pay for IMO.....

Good luck with the search

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