SES 2017 Trip to Nurburgring - 19/05/17 to 23/05/17

[Seanedg]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

well I was hoping I could twist Jo to get a Focus RS so we could take that to the Ring, I even offered to sell a Scoob! but hence I failed, maybe should have tried harder, as I can normally win her round.

Anyway it's French, front wheel drive, well equipped...............................

and boring.

A new 2017 Peugeot 3008 GT Line, with most of the options available, though I did have to untick the glass panoramic sunroof and full leather seats, other wise all my Scoob money would have gone!

Needless to say, I still need to sort a Ring car out.

I do like the Focus RS, but Peugeots are well built these days.

Saying that I had a 205 Gti 1.9 and that was a cracking car.

Will that mean I can't chase you back to the hotel? I did like your Mercedes-Benz.


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[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

I did have to untick the glass panoramic sunroof and full leather seats.

Probably a very wise choice as that sounds like a terrible combination, if left in the sun those seats would have stripped flesh from any bare skin. I've been contemplating a set of seats from a Passat sport to replace my leather highlines as they're unbearable in the summer.

[scotty]

Wouldnt you have the RB5 ready in time as it didnt look like it needed much to be done to it from the last time i saw it .

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

Probably a very wise choice as that sounds like a terrible combination, if left in the sun those seats would have stripped flesh from any bare skin. I've been contemplating a set of seats from a Passat sport to replace my leather highlines as they're unbearable in the summer.

Had the Leather/Alcantara retrofitted in my Passat, was a good combination.

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by scotty

Wouldnt you have the RB5 ready in time as it didnt look like it needed much to be done to it from the last time i saw it .

it's amazing how much I can ruin a car in a year, no stuff is half fitted at moment, no mot, and the rear arches need sorting out indeed. so going to abandon taking Scoob. Not sure what is going yet. we have a Plan A,B & C.

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by Seanedg

I do like the Focus RS, but Peugeots are well built these days.

Saying that I had a 205 Gti 1.9 and that was a cracking car.

Will that mean I can't chase you back to the hotel? I did like your Mercedes-Benz.


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The Mercedes has been upgraded a bit again, but hopefully will be taking something else. Though I will be prepping it just in case. but after doing 25k miles a year in it, I don't really want to spend a holiday in it as well.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

we have a Plan A,B & C.

Been watching fast and furious have we

[nikkinokkinoo]

Deposit paid.

Car booked in for service, tyre research underway, need to get a wheel alignment done, bit tram liney and do a track day here to see how she goes on the track. Probably should check the subframe at some point too

[Seanedg]

Originally Posted by nikkinokkinoo

Deposit paid.

Car booked in for service, tyre research underway, need to get a wheel alignment done, bit tram liney and do a track day here to see how she goes on the track. Probably should check the subframe at some point too

I took the advice of everyone else on here, even though I have a nissan s14a rear wheel drive, 370bhp, I used Goodyear eagle F1s.
They have been brilliant as an, A to B tyre, they got me to Germany, five laps on the nurburgring and around 40 laps at Lydden hill, there still going strong with loads of life left.

Don't get me wrong, if you want to push the limits I would get r888s but as mine is rear wheel drive I wanted a tyre that would keep on the track.

As I found last year the nurburgring has is own weather, the start of your lap could be very try and hot with loads of grip and half way round you've had a rain storm, your then driving like miss daisy, or drifting.....


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[Anger]

I found the Goodyear F1's terrible on track with a Supra TT at Snetterton

[Seanedg]

Originally Posted by Anger

I found the Goodyear F1's terrible on track with a Supra TT at Snetterton

Could be the weight of the car, supras have fat and heavy arse, one of my favourite cars.
My 200sx weight is just over 1000kg, which could mean the tyre isn't getting to hot.
I had some toyo t1rs and I melted them at Lydden, they looked like an f1 tyre after running over all the marbles.

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[Rdlangy1]

ive had the same tyres for 2 years !! including out to Germany, laps and coming back.....says all you need to know about my driving ! pmsl !

[Anger]

I need new tyres at the mo to get my car back on the road, can't make up my mind what to get

[Rdlangy1]

Eagle F1's for me...

Dave ran Eagle F1's at the ring and big E as well I think (correct me if wrong) and had super results...

[nikkinokkinoo]

[QUOTE=Seanedg;235155]Could be the weight of the car, supras have fat and heavy arse, one of my favourite cars.
My 200sx weight is just over 1000kg, which could mean the tyre isn't getting to hot.
I had some toyo t1rs and I melted them at Lydden, they looked like an f1 tyre after running over all the marbles.

Apparently BMWs are too heavy for 888's and they overheat.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Anger

I need new tyres at the mo to get my car back on the road, can't make up my mind what to get

I assume the hawk is never going to be your daily driver, so its got to be a semi slick hasn't it? Then depends on your budget.
For cheap..NS-2Rs as they now come in 100 compound.
More £££ then i'd go Cup 2's or R888R's.

[Anger]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

I assume the hawk is never going to be your daily driver, so its got to be a semi slick hasn't it? Then depends on your budget.
For cheap..NS-2Rs as they now come in 100 compound.
More £££ then i'd go Cup 2's or R888R's.

Well is hasn't moved in coming up to 5 months now so you could say that

Yeah might try the NS-2Rs out again, have R888's on at the moment but they are nearly finished

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Eagle F1's for me...

Dave ran Eagle F1's at the ring and big E as well I think (correct me if wrong) and had super results...

Only because I couldn't be bothered to re-fit to 888s weather was unpredictable last year, In fairness to the Goodyear's they still managed 10 laps without too much scrub off, although the edges where a little worse for ware and they did start to overheat half way through a lap, you needed to be aware you where on road rubber and not a semi slick while pushing on, same set is still on for road use at the mo.
My new wheels didn't arrive in time last year to make switching easy.

Torn between R888R and Nankang AR'1's for next set the AR1 are 80 ware rate.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Torn between R888R and Nankang AR'1's for next set the AR1 are 80 ware rate.

Hadn't even heard of the AR1, damn they look sticky if they're 80 compound

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Produc...FVW7Gwod6jULig

Not a bad price for 225/40/18 either

[Steve_PPP]

Passport received, tunnel booked

Used £40 of tesco vouchers and total return trip was £132.... so just had to pay the £12, bonus

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Passport received, tunnel booked

Used £40 of tesco vouchers and total return trip was £132.... so just had to pay the £12, bonus

Good result that

[555_Si]

i wonder how many days to go now Ian?

[NL03Scooby]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

i wonder how many days to go now Ian?

Enough for you to find a car hopefully...

[555_Si]

lol, looking at Clio's a lot on facebook/internet, just hope I can get enough pennies together. still tempted by a Cooper S though.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

i wonder how many days to go now Ian?

59 !!

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

lol, looking at Clio's a lot on facebook/internet, just hope I can get enough pennies together. still tempted by a Cooper S though.

Take my Scoob?

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Take my Scoob?

:O

[Neil97rs]

can someone give me the details so i can pay for the hotel via bank transfer
Thank you

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

can someone give me the details so i can pay for the hotel via bank transfer
Thank you

Pm sent..

[Neil97rs]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

Pm sent..

Thanks Ian

Im all paid up

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

Thanks Ian

Im all paid up

[Steve_PPP]

Can't wait. Still got to sort a few things on the scoob but shouldn't be a problem. Work has been mental the last 2-3 months, looking forward to a break!

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Take my Scoob?

Originally Posted by Ginola

:O

Well its just sitting in the garage at present feeling lonely....

[nikkinokkinoo]

K what is the best xbox type game to practice on ?

I will be leaving on the Monday not the Tuesday if someone could update the original post for the sake of clarity for room booking - thanks!

[Neil97rs]

ive been using forza 4

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by nikkinokkinoo

K what is the best xbox type game to practice on ?

I will be leaving on the Monday not the Tuesday if someone could update the original post for the sake of clarity for room booking - thanks!

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

ive been using forza 4

Assetto Corsa, is by far the most accurate and a sim rather than a game/arcade game, you really should be using a wheel though rather than a controller.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Assetto Corsa, is by far the most accurate and a sim rather than a game/arcade game you really should be using a wheel though rather than a controller.

Spoken by the guru games master...

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

Spoken by the guru games master...

Originally Posted by Ginola

Assetto Corsa, is by far the most accurate and a sim rather than a game/arcade game you really should be using a wheel though rather than a controller.

+1 for this....Dave's setup is immense, and certainly gives a truly realistic simulation that gets you sweating

[NL03Scooby]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Assetto Corsa, is by far the most accurate and a sim rather than a game

You can even drive around the car park on Assetto and it offers the proper 'bridge to gantry' lap start and finish points.

[Scott.T]

Project Cars is very good in a GT3/VLN spec car. Complete with SES logo at Adeneau.

[nikkinokkinoo]

Assetto ordered.

Is anyone getting the Liber-t tag ?



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[Red Baron]

You don't go on any French toll roads so no need, the only bit of tarmac you have to pay to use is the ring itself.

[Neil97rs]

I was just about to ask the exact same question

[Scott.T]

Your only in France for about 20 minutes.
The only thing you need to worry about is alot of 40 tonne trucks, speed cameras and on the way back asylum seekers.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Scott.T

The only thing you need to worry about is alot of 40 tonne trucks, speed cameras and on the way back asylum seekers.

On positive note in the last 8 trips I dont believe anyone has been done for speeding as I normally set the pace so all you have to do is keep up..

On the way back we have barely seen any asylum seekers as its still daylight.

[Scott.T]

Strange but true I have only managed to get in trouble with the long arm of the law (twice) when not following you.
This I struggle to understand!!!!

[bigemp]

Have Paid Jackie in full for both rooms BigEmp & Little emp if you can update list.

Thanks

Dave

[Frenchie]

Maybe its because they can't keep up Scott. Here in France they have a few Subaru's around Paris on the motorway,but for the most part the police use standard Peugeot 205's.

[Neil97rs]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

On positive note in the last 8 trips I dont believe anyone has been done for speeding as I normally set the pace so all you have to do is keep up..

On the way back we have barely seen any asylum seekers as its still daylight.

Oh dear you better give me a head start then

[Anger]

Adrian and Crowman both got done in Germany

[alfa male]

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

Oh dear you better give me a head start then

No need to get worried, I've said to the Old Man (Big E) to go mid pack this year as it gets boring at the front! We normally charge off and do not see anyone for miles!! So mid pack for us this year for some FUN!!

Not that he listens!!!!!

Is everybody ready?? (Simon not included )!!

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Anger

Adrian and Crowman both got done in Germany

That wasnt to and from the ring though was it?

Crowman got done for not having his documents

I remember that trip very well do you James??

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by alfa male

Not that he listens!!!!!

Is everybody ready?? (Simon not included )!!

Just like to make sure we get there in time for the evening session.

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by alfa male

No need to get worried, I've said to the Old Man (Big E) to go mid pack this year as it gets boring at the front! We normally charge off and do not see anyone for miles!! So mid pack for us this year for some FUN!!

Not that he listens!!!!!

Is everybody ready?? (Simon not included )!!

Wait,, where going to Germany?

[Anger]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

That wasnt to and from the ring though was it?

Crowman got done for not having his documents

I remember that trip very well do you James??

Both got caught speeding, Martyn got a bigger fine as didn't have license on him

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Anger

Both got caught speeding, Martyn got a bigger fine as didn't have license on him

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by alfa male

No need to get worried

Is everybody ready?? (Simon not included )!!

Think Simons more ready than you'd think

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Anger

Martyn got a bigger fine as didn't have license on him

Yes, important thing to remember to be sure you have every single piece of documentation with you, the Germans especially like this: licence, green card insurance (signed), control certificate (MOT, if applicable), grey card (log book), road tax (like the UK, doesn't have to be displayed).

Over here these, except your licence, have to be with the vehicle at all times and copies don't count (as I friend of mine found out when he showed them copy of his old paper UK licence he kept in the car, before we had cards, and got a nice fine). Basically the vehicle has to be totally legal when driven by anyone which is why our insurance is based on the car not the person.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Scott.T

Strange but true I have only managed to get in trouble with the long arm of the law (twice) when not following you.
This I struggle to understand!!!!

I rest my case me lord...

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Think Simons more ready than you'd think

Voiture sage, je suis plus prêt que la plupart penseront que je suis

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

Voiture sage, je suis plus prêt que la plupart penseront que je suis

Thank god for google translate

[alfa male]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

Voiture sage, je suis plus prêt que la plupart penseront que je suis

Déverser les haricots alors!!😎😎

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by alfa male

Déverser les haricots alors!!😎😎

Je pense que vous êtes en bonne compagnie!

[Steve_PPP]

So lets see a pic of the Clio then

[555_Si]

What clio ???

[NL03Scooby]

The only French I know is the Joey Tribbiani style

https://youtu.be/DqwzvtjeYBQ

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

What clio ???

There's a nice black one down the road near roffey shops

[555_Si]

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

So what type of Clio is it ?

What's next then strip out and half cage ?

[Ginola]

Nice one si


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[555_Si]

After germany semi strip and full cage. It's a 182 full fat cup.

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by 555_si

after germany semi strip and full cage. It's a 182 full fat cup.

👌🏻

[BIG"E"]

6 WEEKS TO GO !!!

Just renewed my ADAC cover..

[555_Si]

Oh, i need to get a move on as usual. No headlights working on Clio and needs some serious prepping for track use.

[555_Si]

Oh and a passport and tunnel booking might help.

[NL03Scooby]

Hotel paid directly today and list updated accordingly.

[Red Baron]

Just checking out the train facilities for you today and stumbled across this trio



And also spotted this

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

Just checking out the train facilities for you today and stumbled across this trio



And also spotted this

Mmm GT2's and 3RS choices choices!

[BIG"E"]

Great spot Shane..

[Neil97rs]

On the Saturday there is something called the rev run at the track over 100 modified cars will make it busy

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

On the Saturday there is something called the rev run at the track over 100 modified cars will make it busy

Just googled this and it looks like a Dutch version of the Rico Rally etc, but with 100 cars. 19th-21st May but their website says they will be at the Ring on Sunday. Most likely in the afternoon as it sounds like they'll be a few hangovers in the morning...

The Fourth edition of The RevRun will take place 19, 20 and the 21th of May. The start will be on Friday at the hotel just over the Dutch borders towards the German Sauerland. All participants will gather here Friday afternoon, Friday we will kick off with a dinner and some drinks. Saturday we will head out towards some of the most exciting roads the German Sauerland has to offer. We will have a lunch stop on a unique location somewhere in the German mountains and then head back towards the hotel.

Saturday night we will have a party in a big club with a lot of fun and drinks. Sunday we will have a relaxed morning and later on we will head out towards the mighty Nordschleife where we will finish the fourth edition of The RevRun.
There will be plenty of time left for all participants to have some laps on the Nürburgring if they would like, before everyone heads home.

https://www.therevrun.com/

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Just googled this and it looks like a Dutch version of the Rico Rally etc, but with 100 cars. 19th-21st May but their website says they will be at the Ring on Sunday. Most likely in the afternoon as it sounds like they'll be a few hangovers in the morning..
https://www.therevrun.com/

Agreed

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

On the Saturday there is something called the rev run at the track over 100 modified cars will make it busy

Neil to answer your point, the fact that there will be 100 modded cars means that there will be more to look at.
Consider this there can be more than a 1000 vehicles on the nordschleife at any one time.
100 cars will not have a impact as to how busy it is..

Hope this helps.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

100 cars will not have a impact as to how busy it is..

Unless some of them are a bit dozy after a night on the beers and cause a closure

But yeah, it'll be busy whether these guys turn up or not. It'll certainly be noticeable if they all descend on the car parks at once though.

[Ginola]

on Sunday I will be using this phrase I suspect then..

[Granby]

Apparently taken today, 7 mins make a big difference

[Neil97rs]

I saw on YouTube a video where there was sleet then a bit later brilliant sunshine over the Easter weekend,
Caused a fair few crashes as well so I believe. Appeared to be mostly M3's going off the track.

[555_Si]

i'm taking a clio, and I guess everyone has seen how they like to crash!

[Steve_PPP]

That's one of the beauties about the Ring, can be sunny up at the entrance and hacking it down on the other side. Makes it interesting, especially when all the really quick RWD expensive stuff starts slowing down in the rain and you can re-overtake them with AWD

[Rdlangy1]

I think on one of my laps last year we had sun at the start, rain in the middle, and sun towards the end... then on the drive back to Jackie's it was sun when we left, rain as we went up into the town, and then sun as we came back down..

Its quite surreal how quickly it changes...

Not to mention the epic thunderstorms we watched from the cliff edge overlooking the river...

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

I think on one of my laps last year we had sun at the start, rain in the middle, and sun towards the end... then on the drive back to Jackie's it was sun when we left, rain as we went up into the town, and then sun as we came back down..

Its quite surreal how quickly it changes...

Not to mention the epic thunderstorms we watched from the cliff edge overlooking the river...

Mmmm ive got a few tiny dents from the hail storm we got stuck in

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by scotty

Mmmm ive got a few tiny dents from the hail storm we got stuck in

I follow LastHumansGarage on YouTube and he gained 65/70 dents from a recent heavy hail storm over in the US. Not a pretty sight and I'm rather glad mine stays under cover for most of the time - we also get quite bad storms like that once/twice every few years.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Not to mention the epic thunderstorms we watched from the cliff edge overlooking the river...

That was pretty cool, its a nice little drive out that way to the Mosel. I plan on heading over there again this year but want to find the spot on the other side of the valley, I've got a large canvas print of the view on my lounge wall and would be nice to see it in real life if you know what i mean

Originally Posted by scotty

Mmmm ive got a few tiny dents from the hail storm we got stuck in

That hailstorm in Koblenz was crazy. Still find it funny that you got in your car and then realised the mrs wasn't with you
At least we made it down in the cable car before they stopped running it due to the lightning!

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

That was pretty cool, its a nice little drive out that way to the Mosel. I plan on heading over there again this year but want to find the spot on the other side of the valley, I've got a large canvas print of the view on my lounge wall and would be nice to see it in real life if you know what i mean



That hailstorm in Koblenz was crazy. Still find it funny that you got in your car and then realised the mrs wasn't with you
At least we made it down in the cable car before they stopped running it due to the lightning!

And to think, whilst you were all dodging hail stones e.t.c. - I was back at the hotel waxing my car in beautiful sunshine

Good times..........

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

And to think, whilst you were all dodging hail stones e.t.c. - I was back at the hotel waxing my car in beautiful sunshine

Good times..........

Yes good times defo cant wait for next years trip

[nikkinokkinoo]

Originally Posted by Neil97rs

I saw on YouTube a video where there was sleet then a bit later brilliant sunshine over the Easter weekend,
Caused a fair few crashes as well so I believe. Appeared to be mostly M3's going off the track.

What you saying ? Should I be scared ?

[Red Baron]

I know a lot of you have seen this before but this is a great video from last years 24 hour VLN showing some rather extreme weather:

https://youtu.be/FWfk3QEbeKQ

[Steve_PPP]

You know the hail is bad when its ripping the leaves out of the trees!

[Red Baron]

And cars can't get up the hills let alone round the corners

[Ginola]

Have a watch of this from last year, Wagon Jo co as co-pilot, but! Sunny at the start, accidents yellow flags etc etc and pissing with rain at the end of the lap! (Normal at the ring to be honest!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUSyS5JITD0

[Granby]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

That was pretty cool, its a nice little drive out that way to the Mosel. I plan on heading over there again this year but want to find the spot on the other side of the valley, I've got a large canvas print of the view on my lounge wall and would be nice to see it in real life if you know what i mean

Really enjoyed that little drive watching the thunder storm get nearer & nearer

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

That hailstorm in Koblenz was crazy. Still find it funny that you got in your car and then realised the mrs wasn't with you
At least we made it down in the cable car before they stopped running it due to the lightning!

As you said it was crazy, we were very lucky with the cable car as i think 5mins later it was stopped, surprising how quick that hailstorm came in and the fact i had to run