Project "Stealthy" 400 or 500bhp (or something in between)"operation granby"

[Granby]

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/projects-40/75 ... tween.html

[SUBARMAN]

WOW! Performance wasn't enough for you then? What BHP/torque did you have that you were not happy with!!!

I am wondering what to do next.....................................

[Granby]

Currently running around 330bhp / 320torque, it's been like that for a couple of years now and to be honest i was getting a bit bored with it, after doing the 30 - 130 sprint a few weeks back where the car seemed sooooo slow i thought sod it you only live once lets go for it, the engine is good for around 600bhp but i think i'll go for around 500bhp, it might be a bit laggy but i think it's going to be fun finding out

[SUBARMAN]

Interesting - mine's about the same but the other way round (320/330)! I suppose if you were doing that sprint, you were up against the "top end" of cars rather than your average family/daily use Scoob.

Sounds like a good reason to go for it! Good luck!

Wonder if you will reach take off speed before a Vulcan?

[Granby]

Yeah they were "top end" cars , there was a 30/40mph headwind all day which did slow most cars down anyway, my best time was 27 sec where Andy F did it in 7 sec , i know his car is a total speed machine so not really fair to compare the cars, if i had been able to get to 130 in forth (could only manage 127) then i could of easily knocked at least 5 sec off my time, was fun though and as i said you only live once so why not go for it

[Granby]

Been having a bit of a fettle with the front bumper as it didn't quite fit right after fitting the FMIC, APS supply templates for what you have to cut out of the bumper which were fine around the main opening but in the fog light area they weren't enough (maybe the wagon bumper is slightly different), so it was out with the dremel and cut away





The FMIC bar was also a nice place to mount a couple of my HID ballasts





Also trimmed of the opening for the FMIC with some edging trim and made a grille to give some protection for the FMIC



Without grille





With grille

[BIG"E"]

Very NICE.

[SUBARMAN]

Indeed!!!

Very Very neat job, Hats off to you

Good job that man!

[majorscooby]

a very tidy job!

[Granby]

I want my car back
Picked my car up from Zen yesterday after they had it for a month, it took a bit longer then expected as fitting a older type engine into a newage does bring up a few issues, also i had some other work done to it including fitting a PPG 5 speed helical gearset and a Helix uprated organic clutch so it's ready for the bigger turbo now

How does it drive
It drives very well, it has a slightly lumpy tickover but thats not a major problem, it still has my VF34 turbo on it at the moment and it's producing 346bhp & 345ft lbs, it's getting max boost of 1.65bar at around 3300rpm in 5th and the power seems a lot more progressive in it's delivery, on my old engine i would get a big kick from the turbo until around 6200rpm and then the power would just drop off but with this setup i still get a (not so big) kick but the power just continues until the redline of 7500rpm, looking at the dyno printout i have at the redline it's still producing 330bhp

Houston we have a problem
Unfortunately there are a couple of problems at the moment which hopefully Zen will be able to sort out
1st one is when your braking and dip the clutch the engine just wants to stall, it's doesn't stall all the time but the revs do get very low but if you dip the clutch without braking the revs will drop below normal tickover but build up straight away?
2nd is the engine light is on, Zen did fix this when i picked the car up but when i stopped for fuel and started the engine again it came back on
3rd is the cooling fans are turning on/off every few seconds

I'm sure these are just teething problems and Zen will be able to fix ASAP, can't wait to get hold of Eurekas turbo now and see what it goes like with that on

[trails]

Originally Posted by Granby

can't wait to get hold of Eurekas turbo now and see what it goes like with that on

what blower is it Ian?

if you speak to him, ask him to send the pics of his wheels to me, i've been waiting for two weeks

[Granby]

MD321S and before you say it i know it may be a bit laggy but i'm gonna give it a try anyway

[trails]

Originally Posted by Granby

MD321S and before you say it i know it may be a bit laggy but i'm gonna give it a try anyway

as long as you are getting it cheap

[Granby]

My K-Sport 330mm 6 pot rear brakes have finally been fitted after getting the wrong kit first time around, fitting went fine apart from a couple of bolts that were a bit too long (nothing a blunt hacksaw blade couldn't fix )

Also fitted Ferodo 2500 brake pads front & rear as the standard pads supplied with these kits aren't really up to the job when doing track days, even though i've got to bed the pads in they already feel a lot better and can't wait to use them in anger

[trails]

(for continuities sake) Bling

[SUBARMAN]

They do look like they mean business!!!

[trails]

Ian have you seen these...can you do yours?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... 681&page=9

[SUBARMAN]

Those rear lights look really neat!!!

[Granby]

Originally Posted by trails

Ian have you seen these...can you do yours?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... 681&page=9

They look nice, but it's no more mods for me

[Granby]

Must say a big thank you to Paul at Zen who had a fiddle with the car today and it runs much better , doesn't stall anymore and he adjusted the off boost running a bit which has made it feel much smoother

Also had a catch can fitted with a drain to sump kit

Just need the turbo now to round things off

[trails]

yeah right...no more mods

[Squadron-Leader]

"No more mods"... Granby, talk sense man.

Look at me. I gave up ownership for 9 months and could not stand being out of the loop any longer.

So what am I doing right now (no mucky comments please)?

Looking for cheap crystal indicators/side/front lights on E-bay. Not to mention a de-cat classic centre... oh and some brake stuff as the current ones are not great.

I've got this 3rd Wagon on the understanding (with the wife) I'll not mod it... yeah pull the other one!

We are... Modders to Death

J.

[Granby]

I tell you "no more mods" once i get the turbo on thats it...............................................h onest guv

[2-jaffacake-tone]

what turbo you going for?

[Granby]

Originally Posted by 2-jaffacake-tone

what turbo you going for?

MD321S

[2-jaffacake-tone]

sweet! should spool up fast then

[trails]

Ian if you mail Mark at Leteral with the serial on your blower he will be able to give you an exact spec of that particular build...should be able to work out what power it will make on your 2.0

[Granby]

Originally Posted by trails

Ian if you mail Mark at Leteral with the serial on your blower he will be able to give you an exact spec of that particular build...should be able to work out what power it will make on your 2.0

Would be a bit difficult at the moment as it's still on the other car

[trails]

Originally Posted by Granby

Would be a bit difficult at the moment as it's still on the other car

lol, I thought Steve had taken it out already

I assume you are going to be at TA on Sunday?

[Granby]

Originally Posted by trails

lol, I thought Steve had taken it out already

I assume you are going to be at TA on Sunday?

Yes i'll be there

[trails]

coolio, will see you there...may be picking some wheels up from steve, been trying to get over to him for the last couple of days but have had a mare at work

[SUBARMAN]

All cash for Dunsfold gratefully received on Sunday Chaps!

[trails]

Originally Posted by SUBARMAN

All cash for Dunsfold gratefully received on Sunday Chaps!

how much was it Keith?

[Granby]

Who's this bloke going off topic on my thread :P

[trails]

Originally Posted by Granby

Who's this bloke going off topic on my thread :P

ssshhhhhh apparently he's a bit of a nutter...into dressing up and what-not

[SUBARMAN]

£10 Young Man!

Don't know about dressing up, but definately into "what-not" !!!!

Sorry about going off topic - needed to attract his attention.........

"Normal" service will now be resumed.....................

[trails]

thanks kieth, looking forward to seeing everyone on Sunday even f I'm only in the focus

[Granby]

Done a couple of little mods over the last few weeks

1. gone back to the original WRX bonnet scoop as the STi one is not needed now with the FMIC

2. used the original o/s fog light surround for a cold air feed for the APS induction kit, not sure what it's gonna be like when it rains though, might also do the n/s one as well as i think it looks a bit one sided the way it is at the moment

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/Granby/BrandsHatch005.jpg[/img]

[trails]

Ian have a read of this...I'm still concerned about your choice of blower on a 2.0...321S is optimised for 2.5's so will not spool as quickly on your car. tell me to mind me own business if i'm interfering...only I know someone who got stuck with the 321S when he wanted to upgrade as its quite an old turbo. so this could save you a bit of hassle later

http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.c ... 109#000037

[Granby]

You worry too much Ian

[trails]

it's only because I care

[Granby]

Originally Posted by trails

it's only because I care

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by trails

Ian have a read of this...I'm still concerned about your choice of blower on a 2.0...321S is optimised for 2.5's so will not spool as quickly on your car. tell me to mind me own business if i'm interfering...only I know someone who got stuck with the 321S when he wanted to upgrade as its quite an old turbo. so this could save you a bit of hassle later

http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.c ... 109#000037

Thats the reason i said no to steve . its to laggy by todays standards .
Want a T and will only settle for a T or T+

[trails]

I've said my piece...if Ian intends to ignore my excellent ( ), advice its his loss

[Granby]

Thought you was never gonna shut up :P

[trails]

Originally Posted by Granby

Thought you was never gonna shut up :P

verbal diarrhoea I'm afraid

[trails]

some more for you Ian...Duncan comment says it all and they are atalking about 2.5's not 2.0.

http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.c ... p=1#000003

[Granby]

Did another mod to the car the other day although i didn't intend to lol, managed to rip off one of my mudflaps when parking at work so time for a change, one off all off so the car is now mudflapless

[SUBARMAN]

That saves us all having to rip one mudflap off in sympathy. Thanks Ian.

[Granby]

Fitted a couple of switches today, can you guess what they will be used for (not at the moment though)

[C. J.]

anti lag and high to low boost settings ?

Ejector seat and hun detector switches

[SUBARMAN]

I thought "ejector seats". Now I will have to think of something else!!!

The one on the left may be for emptying the thrusting duct. Not good positioning though - liklihood of pressing the wrong one when driving.

Oh! Just had a word with the Squadron boffins. They are for the heated seats!!!!!

Red for heating up, and green for cooling down. Smart!

[Squadron-Leader]

Climate Cup Holder controls like on the Audi Q5/Q7 ?

Red button to heat your beverage to a max of 59oc and a green button to cool your beverage to 3oc. Only £100 optional extra on the Q5/Q7. Deffo having one of those.... if I can find the other £28000 to buy a Q5.

Failing that are they for..

1) NOS?
2) Diff?
3) Water injection?
4) Some other injection mounted on the front mount?
5) Flamer?
6) Cloak?
7) Revolving number plate?
8) Oil slick
9) Missiles?
10) Change the colour of my wheels while in motion to green or red?

[SUBARMAN]

LOL at the Squadron Leader!!!!

[Granby]

1 of the guesses is correct

[SUBARMAN]

Gotta be number 10 then!!!

How do you wire the switches up to the wheels?

[Granby]

Could not possibly say, some things are even secret from the wagon squadron

[trails]

launch control and anti-lag methinks...hope you are in the Solaris club G...

salty out (on location in Koh Tao )

[SUBARMAN]

Am interested in a chat about Solaris at some point soon............................

[Squadron-Leader]

Did you know I'm Solaris certified. Can I join in the 'talk pts/1' about '/ect/vfstab/ and 'ifconfig dmfe0 plumb' ?

[Granby]

Originally Posted by trails

launch control and anti-lag methinks...hope you are in the Solaris club G...

salty out (on location in Koh Tao )

Theres always a smart a***

No it's not Solaris as it's always 2 months down the line for newages

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Squadron-Leader

Did you know I'm Solaris certified. Can I join in the 'talk pts/1' about '/ect/vfstab/ and 'ifconfig dmfe0 plumb' ?

mmmm i miss my days working with solaris on ultra sparcs

[trails]

lol, I'd hate to disappoint you Ian there are a few newages with Solaris...Jag has it in his WR1

Keith, Zak has brought a Solaris and installed it in Mrs Mocom's wagon, he's super impressed so far but won't know more until I return from leave. Not suprised you are fluent

[Granby]

Originally Posted by trails

lol, I'd hate to disappoint you Ian there are a few newages with Solaris...Jag has it in his WR1

Keith, Zak has brought a Solaris and installed it in Mrs Mocom's wagon, he's super impressed so far but won't know more until I return from leave. Not suprised you are fluent

They have had looms made up, the plug and play solaris is still a little while off and anyway there is nothing wrong with Simtek's

[trails]

Originally Posted by Granby

They have had looms made up, the plug and play solaris is still a little while off and anyway there is nothing wrong with Simtek's

i guess Jag's must be a cusom jobbie then..nowt wrong with Simtek's, lots of people using them with great results. i just like the active knock control, data logging and multiple map options...i understand you can also use it to control DCCD in conjunction with LC

[Granby]

Well had the MD321S fitted yesterday and a Simtek with anti lag & launch control fitted and mapped by JGM today, had a little problem with a sensor but a couple of phone calls later (cheers Eureka) and that was sorted

Managed to get 432bhp & 380ft lbs at 1.5 bar, they did try 1.7 bar but something was holding the car back which wouldn't let it release any more power, after talking to Simon & Charlie it seems the the exhaust (still a 2.5" system) could be the problem so it looks like i'm after a full 3" system now

Haven't really had a chance to test it yet but the car does seem a lot smoother, did boot it a couple of times and if i'm honest it didn't seem that much faster but i was in quite heavy traffic so will give it another try when nothing is around

Good job Ian!

[Granby]

Thought i'd post up a pic of my engine bay after having all the work done

The APS intercooler kit comes with red pipes which i thought didn't look right in my engine bay so i decided to spray them black for a more stealthy look, unfortunately i run out of spray paint so couldn't do the APS induction pipe

Before


After

[SUBARMAN]

Certainly stealthy, but not Mulberry!

[Squadron-Leader]

Nice. Now clean it

[Granby]

Originally Posted by Squadron-Leader

Nice. Now clean it

hmmm maybe lol, bodywork certainly needs a clean after yesterday

[Granby]

Big thank you to Simon (JGM) who came round yesterday and sorted a little idle problem i had when the engine was cold

[Granby]

[Granby]

New exhaust arrived today, Revolution 3" full system



So no time like the present, downpipe wrapped

[Chunk]

I'm loving your car

Interesting read. Top project

[dazzlers82]

nice one gramps its all coming together now

[trails]

Sqn Ldr approved back box by the looks of it too

[SUBARMAN]

Yes - top project indeed!!!

[Granby]

Originally Posted by trails

Sqn Ldr approved back box by the looks of it too

Don't worry, it won't be shinny for long

[trails]

Originally Posted by Granby

Don't worry, it won't be shinny for long

what does shinny mean...is that some form of Kentish local dialect?!?

[Granby]

Originally Posted by trails

what does shinny mean...is that some form of Kentish local dialect?!?

[Granby]

Decided to change the air filter that came with the APS induction pipe as it looked a bit small and had seen better days, couldn't fit the new filter on the induction pipe so had to use a nice big piece of silicon hose with a 45 degree bend

Standard filter in the wheel arch



New filter against the old



New filter in the wheel arch



Filter should get plenty of cold air through the fog light cover

[Squadron-Leader]

I say... that's a rather large one you have! Only just fits in that small hole... fnar fnar.

Looks very trick though

[AndyWRX]

looks wicked mate bet its loud, youll get plenty of cold air to the filter but watch out for puddles

[Granby]

Exhaust is on and sounds very nice, no louder than my old system which is what i wanted but i now have a few pops & bangs even without anti-lag

[Granby]

A couple of pics of the engine bay, sprayed the intercooler pipes black plus a couple of other bits & pieces done to tidy it up

tis a stunning example of a wagon

[Granby]

Originally Posted by MrX???

tis a stunning example of a wagon

Thank you very much for your kind words

[AndyWRX]

excellent thread mate really good read

[Granby]

Had the car mapped again for the 3" exhaust and it made a grand total of 2bhp more (434bhp)
Seems i have a slight misfire which is holding it back, gonna try a new set of spark plugs and see how that goes

[SUBARMAN]

Go on! Fit that top mount!!!

This is a great thread, as Andy said.

And this really is a very sorted Scoob you now have matey. Top job that man.

It looks the absolute nuts.

[Granby]

it's not sorted just yet as there is more power to come once i get the misfire cured

[trails]

Wide arch 2 door with OE saloon panels....get it done G!

[SUBARMAN]

WOW! I want one of those !!!!!!

[AndyWRX]

Originally Posted by trails

i actually quite like that

[Granby]

Seen this pic on the NASIOC site and quite like the look of the foglight covers in black