What should i get?!

Scottie :) · #1 13-11-2009, 10:14 AM

Hi guys i could do with a collection of knowledge from yourselves so i can get the best buy with my money. As some of you may or may not know i was meant to be getting Niges scoob but some money fell through, but life goes on.

I have got in the region of 6-7K and i want to get the best scoob as possible for a starting block for me to build on. i like the possibility of 2door but can be altered. iv got a few months to think about it.

Please help, Cheers

Skullfudge · #2 13-11-2009, 11:08 AM

Hi Scottie.

If you intend to build or modify a Scoob I would suggest a classic P1 or Type R.

Once you have started and your power increase becomes higher weight issues then become more important and the classics are a fair bit lighter to start with.
They also feel totally different to drive opposed to newer models.

Many have modded new age Scoobs and are more than happy but the choice will be yours.

Best advice would be to take a P1 or a Type R for a test drive together with a newer model and feel what you are happy with.

I have a P1 with some mods and the overall machine works really well.

Scottie :) · #3 13-11-2009, 11:16 AM

Thanks for your advise i will do that, the only thing is with the money i have got i can get a better classic than a new age if you know what i mean. i really admire what you have done with yours and would like to eventually get something on the same grounds.

i have always preferred the classic but will see what happens, also i am young and have no children and and back issues lol so wouldnt be bothered with an animal to drive every day

WRX_Paul · #4 13-11-2009, 11:33 AM

Get a classic, i paid £5k for my WRX with 22k on the clock, it drives like new!

Hongkongfooi · #5 13-11-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Hi Scottie.

I have a P1 with some mods and the overall machine works really well.

for understatment!

C. J. · #6 13-11-2009, 12:45 PM

If its a daily drive I'd go newage and 4k will get you a bugeye sti or a blob wrx upto 04 or 54 plate .
I'd find a bugeye sti and if you want 400bhp, a remapp , 3"exhaust and TD05 20g will get you there or very close.
If you want it for the trax then find a classic

Steve_PPP · #7 13-11-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by C. J.

If its a daily drive I'd go neage and 4k will get you a bugeye sti

can you find me one?

i've been keeping one eye on things and i haven't seen any bug sti's anywhere near that cheap!

#8 13-11-2009, 01:19 PM

Tough one really.

It depends which shape floats your boat really. 2 door obviousy points at a classic of some kind.

Other questions:
UK Spec or Import
Standard or Slightly Modded
WRX or STi

The choices are wide and varied. The good thing is you have a little bit of time. If you see something out there you like the look of, post details and a pic if possible, the guys on here will give you spot on advice.

C. J. · #9 13-11-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

can you find me one?

i've been keeping one eye on things and i haven't seen any bug sti's anywhere near that cheap!

There out there your not looking hard anuff

#10 13-11-2009, 07:48 PM

Scott dont you even think about getting a newage Sti for around £4k

You will end up with some dog with balistic mile's on it in need of work. Or even on the register. Take your time the right one will come along at some point. Its false economy buying a pig they cost more to put right & never worth anything when you come to sell.

C. J. · #11 13-11-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige

Scott dont you even think about getting a newage Sti for around £4k

You will end up with some dog with balistic mile's on it in need of work. Or even on the register. Take your time the right one will come along at some point. Its false economy buying a pig they cost more to put right & never worth anything when you come to sell.

There are good ones going for that with average mileage which are not dogs
Have you been to black bush auction ?

#12 13-11-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by C. J.

There are good ones going for that with average mileage which are not dogs
Have you been to black bush auction ?

Yes mate that was my job many moons ago. I had my own garage for over 10years. Black bush & Paddock wood were my old stomping ground + others. As far as Scott is conserned he's not mechanicly minded & pays for all work he has done. Buying fron an auction can be good if you know what your doing & know who or what garage your buying off. The car's we play with can be & are more of a risk. In Scott's case i would say its to much of a risk.

There will be one on hear or one that will be recomended to him at some point.

Anger · #13 13-11-2009, 08:20 PM

Yep a P1 or Type R would be a good starting place or

If you dont mind having more doors and dont mind waiting for one to come along, the STI6 RA is said by many to be the best classic ever made in standard form

dazzlers82 · #14 13-11-2009, 08:47 PM

p1 or type r but if you do go for anything else make sure it is an sti as you will have a better base than a wrx

Scooby Wez · #15 13-11-2009, 08:57 PM

I had a limit on what i had to spend on a scoob when i was looking liked the P1 but it would of taken all the funds i had and i wanted to play.After quotes on insurance i was not willing to pay for an import as well.I found my uk one at a very good price then have spent the last year playing.In th end it's up to you go test a few see what you like

MIDLIFE · #16 13-11-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige

Scott dont you even think about getting a newage Sti for around £4k

You will end up with some dog with balistic mile's on it in need of work. Or even on the register. Take your time the right one will come along at some point. Its false economy buying a pig they cost more to put right & never worth anything when you come to sell.

£4000 for sti bugeye? not even seen a "cat d" for that money. I have had a classic jap sti, and now have a bugeye jap sti, both of them are great cars. My advice is to DRIVE both of them and then decide. You are welcome to have a drive of my car.

Scottie :) · #17 22-11-2009, 03:48 PM

Thanks very much guys, invaluable advice. I do have a bit of time to decide just see how it goes. I will do some searching and if i find something a bit tasty il put it up and see.

Thanks again.

RobEvo5 · #18 24-11-2009, 10:06 AM

Be patient its buyers market and some good cars about for good money... this sold for £4K.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Bugs or blobs, are screwed together allot better than classics IMO, and bugeyes currently represent great value for money. But I still like the the proportions of a classic.

If you like classics, I would personally always go for UK MY99/00 or very late MY98 with the facelift bumper and 440cc injectors as standard. Depsite UK's having a 40-60bhp dissavantage on paper to an early WRX, In real world driving a late UK is just as quick and a nicer drive with a quick spooling TD04 turbo and feels allot more solid from my experience.

Plus a late UK classic is a great platform for modding. A decat, panel filter and Apexi, or ECUTEK takes you to circa 270bhp on the standard turbo and intercooler. Or VF28/35,decat, STI8 intercooler takes you over 300bhp as proven by Scott.t.

Scott.t's car has the optimium balance between performance, day to day drivability, and value for money mods for power gains IMO.

Oh and because UK classics are slightly overlooked In my opinion, they also represent good value for money, and you tend to be able to get unmolested FSSH, straight examples.

I often see early 1994/5 Import WRX's with a few mods trying to go for the same money as a MY99. Which to me is madness, when the MY99 is a UK car and 5 years younger, probably with FSH, and a good straight honest car.

Anyone with early WRX's please don't flame me - This is all just IMHO of course.!

#19 24-11-2009, 11:13 AM

Good call Rob, pretty sound advice that!

Chunk · #20 24-11-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RobEvo5

Anyone with early WRX's please don't flame me - This is all just IMHO of course.!

Type R would be a good one

As said already, it's a buyers market at the moment

Scottie :) · #21 27-11-2009, 01:24 PM

Thanks Rob i have been looking and there is some nice examples out there. after looking and researching i would really like a P1! what do poeple think of that as a whole? but they only just dip in my price range of 7k absolute max, maybe theyl drop by march ish.

#22 27-11-2009, 02:06 PM

P1's are lovely cars.

Are there really P1's out there for that money?

If you are looking for a special edition, have you thought about an RB5 or a Terzo?

Scottie :) · #23 27-11-2009, 02:24 PM

Yeah iv seen a few for that, but a bit scepticle about them. rb5 are nice but i think i need to narrow down my choice as there is so many. so poss stick to two doors maybe. is it a real problem to get an import, obviously uk would be easier but im not sure?

i would like to in the near future do a 2.5 conversion does that spring an issue with a classic etc.

i dont know this is why i asked, but i do love the overal persona of the P1!!!!

Skullfudge · #24 27-11-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottie :)

Yeah iv seen a few for that, but a bit scepticle about them. rb5 are nice but i think i need to narrow down my choice as there is so many. so poss stick to two doors maybe. is it a real problem to get an import, obviously uk would be easier but im not sure?

i would like to in the near future do a 2.5 conversion does that spring an issue with a classic etc.

i dont know this is why i asked, but i do love the overal persona of the P1!!!!

You won.t necessarily need a 2.5 conversion Scottie.

A 2.0 Ltr with a good bottom end (closed deck block) can provide enough power to keep you grinning for a decade.

Trust me

RobEvo5 · #25 27-11-2009, 03:37 PM

P1's are out there at the moment for 7K. Its the dogs danglies of all the classics and redisuals will always be good on them as a result, and certainly gets the thumbs up from any of the scooby fraternity.!

As for 2.5ltr they are great and the torque they give as a real world road car is second to none. So if you like a lazy driver and love instant pull then 2.5 all the way.

But if you like really spirited driving then a well sorted tuned 2.0ltr is a very nice car indeed. With a generally wider power band and a higher reving engine it makes for great fun. 400bhp has been done many a time on a 2ltr.

Some of the most fun cars I have had, have had the least BHP. And thats because they have reved like crazy and can thrash the nuts of them in most gears, handle like they are on rails, and maintain superb throttle response.

Keep an open mind, when the time comes, something will come along for the right price that will take your eye. IMO Focus less on bolt on extra's and more on service history, condition, and how much of enthusiast/genuine the owner is, and you will do all right. Oh and slightly contradictory, but don't always be infulenced by price.. sometimes it does pay to pay the extra to get the right example and will save you money in the long run.

#26 27-11-2009, 03:39 PM

Scottie :) · #27 27-11-2009, 04:01 PM

Cheers guys, all this info is brilliant. thanks alot.

Squadron-Leader · #28 27-11-2009, 04:47 PM

Scottie

"but don't always be influenced by price.. sometimes it does pay to pay the extra to get the right example"... wise words from Rob.

I had a budget of 2K and was looking for something R/P reg. There was plenty out there, but all of them were in awful condition with high mileage and very little service history. I up'd my budget a few times, but in the end bit the bullet with one at 3.2K... mainly thanks to no-bars-krud showing me the error of my ways. I’d been looking at spending 2K and then a fair bit more doing it up, but by spending more on the car I got what I wanted straight off.

I found an MY00 wagon with... full dealer service history, 3 owners from new, 63K miles, almost new Goodyear Eagle F1’s, 1 mod (the backbox) and an enthusiast of an owner. The car really was in another class compared the rest of the cr*p I’d looked at.

This is my 3rd Impreza and I think I know a little about them now, but I still took just over 2 months to find this one! Take your time and you’ll find what you want.

Skullfudge · #29 27-11-2009, 04:50 PM

Well written RobEvo5.

That' is an excellent write up and spot on.

SCOTTIE. Rob's post does sum up the difference very well. I have driven my mates 2.5 (running at 400 ish) new age flat through the gears and the response is virtually instant and was real good fun. (boost Im guessing at 2500rpm to 4500K

With mine (2.0) you retain the boost for a longer period. I boost at exactly 4K to 8K.

Rob & I have both been there, done it & got the fooking T-Shirt

and looking back you wanna stop at 400 Bhp. Great power to weight & you know you have a proper bloke toy.
I have a P1 and they are a fantastic base for modding. When all other guys reach 400 it's not long before weight becomes an issue if they intend to achieve 400+.
You won't in a P1 as they only weigh 1290Kg's.

(IF) you get bored with 400 & want more be prepared to start spending big money. To get from 400 to around 600 will cost you at least 4 times what it cost to achieve 400.

Also a thing that is often overlooked by many is a P1 is more Prodrive than Subaru. Most of the set up is Prodrive & their level of knowledge is right up the top end.

At the next meet I will take you for a spin using the LC and show you what a modded 2.0 P1 is like, if you wish?

#30 27-11-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skullfudge

When all other guys reach 400 it's not long before weight becomes an issue if they intend to achieve 400+.

I haven't reached 400 yet and I have a weight problem.

Mainly due to curry and beer.

Skullfudge · #31 27-11-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by worzel

I haven't reached 400 yet and I have a weight problem.

Mainly due to curry and beer.

You or the Car ?

#32 27-11-2009, 06:26 PM

In truth Both!

:mrgreen :

Scottie :) · #33 29-11-2009, 12:54 PM

Thanks Skullfudge, i would love to take up that offer it would be a priviledge

C. J. · #34 29-11-2009, 02:10 PM

http://www.surreyscoobies.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=33820

Scottie :) · #35 29-11-2009, 10:46 PM

Cheers C.J.

Scottie :) · #36 07-12-2009, 12:23 PM

What do people think of this? any good?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1999-SUBARU-Im...item20ae63458b

#37 07-12-2009, 12:28 PM

Looks ok. And not pimped either.

If you are interested, make sure you take someone with you if possible though.

Scott.T · #38 07-12-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottie :)

What do people think of this? any good?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1999-SUBARU-Im...item20ae63458b

I've never been sure about those blue front seats, always looks like some cheap halfords covers as they do not match the back.

i would recommend for this and any STi 5, 6, RA etc.. that it needs remapping (ECUTEK'ing) if not done already as the fuel/timing map is a little aggresive, hence why so many of this age go pop.
If it has a decat you will get more out of the remap and push the boost up to 1.3+bar and 300-340BHP.

So a bit of a no brainer....live with it sotck and risk a failure or remap it for 300+BHP and end up with a safer map aswell.

Scottie :) · #39 07-12-2009, 01:19 PM

thanks for the advise scott, much appreciated. only problem is if i wanted to get it would need someone to travel with me and check it. but i would only go and get it if it was really worth it.

willis · #40 07-12-2009, 01:53 PM

blue seats are very rare a mate of mine has the same car paid 11000k for it two years ago for a standard car its a nutter

willis · #41 07-12-2009, 01:58 PM

it looks like a good one for the money trust me they are quick

Chunk · #42 07-12-2009, 05:32 PM

My scoob is for sale at £2700

Great base to start from

willis · #43 07-12-2009, 05:39 PM

been looking at the ones worzel found and on evilbay carn,t beliive how many and how cheep some of these cars are there are some lovely fresh jdm sti imports type r and ra

munk · #44 07-12-2009, 05:43 PM

go for it mate iv only recently got mine........ and thay are so much fun....!!! have to be a bit gentle in the wet thou!!! untill you get used to it.feels like a totally diffrent car compared to my old imprezas!!

willis · #45 07-12-2009, 05:47 PM

your not wrong munk

Scottie :) · #46 07-12-2009, 11:12 PM

Im just worried about the import docs does this matter, this is the email i got back ,if i did buy this i would have 1k spare so would have some cash left rather than blowing the lot

'The car was imported in November 1999 but I do not have the import documents, only the standard V5 (log book) is in my possession. The car is not totally standard (I tried to find one but couldn't) it has a dump valve and cone air filter (i have snce bought a standard recirc valve and air box and snorkle to but it back to standard I will let the buyer have), it also has a de-cat pipe and stainless custom made exhaust, suspension is the PPP (prodrive performance pack) suspension pack I have been told and the brake hoses are braided, there is also a turbo timer fitted. The air-con/climate control works perfectly, as does the intercooler spray which is the 2 things that usually didn't work when I was looking'.

would this be a good buy overall? (also im sorry if im annoying anyone by keep asking questions)

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