The Bug...

[Rdlangy1]

Yeah I think mine were - but whatever was there isn't there now and the other side looks damaged too... will grab some new drop links and linear locks as Conrad suggests as I don't have those...

[nikkinokkinoo]

Looks like some good progress. Going to be a well sorted scoob.

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by nikkinokkinoo

Looks like some good progress. Going to be a well sorted scoob.

Thanks Nick...

[Steve_PPP]

Nice, coming along well mate

Shame about the uppipe/turbo stud but that happens. I did my modine top seal recently too as it had been leaking so its probably just an age thing.

[Rdlangy1]

Yeah not much could be done - only one stud tho and can be easily replaced so shouldn't effect the sale too much I hope

Modine seal was real surprise as never had an oil leak on my motor.

Droplinks are bigger concern tho - they are only 2yrs and 2300miles old! Pmsl

[Ginola]

2300 miles in 2 years I did that in the last 3 weeks!


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[Red Baron]

Noticed Whiteline do replacement bushes for the drop links, a cheaper option than a complete new set. Not sure when they switched from yellow to black polyurethane.

Think my Scoob has done 10k in the 5 years I've owned it, things tend to perish rather than wear out, the Passat on the other hand has done 20k in the last 13 months.

[scooby doo]

Aslong as the middle mounts are the correct size for that bar and are in good condition Undo the clamps in the middle of the ARB , this will centralise the bar . Giving you around 3mm clearance each side ,
Looking at the pics I'd say tho just a guess that the left hand top link bush is worn too

[Rdlangy1]

Appreciate all the feedback guys

Shane I did notice they have changed from yellow to black - good news about the replacement bushes although I fear it may be safer to get the links as it has worn through quite a bit.

Looking at the control arms it does seem the bracket holding the drop links has bent and has a small fracture on it so I would prefer to change these also for peace of mind. Although they are fairly expensive so it will have to wait a bit...

Definitely going to order up the lateral locks for the ARB though

[Rdlangy1]

Well had a chat with Alyn today - ordered up new Hardrace Rear Control Arms, Adapters to change the "C" drop links to straight ball joint ones like the front, new trailing arms, drop links, modine Oil Seal, and Exhaust gaskets..

Hopefully that should sort everything out.............................................ho pefully!

[scotty]

Did you go for the adjustable hardrace lateral arms or normal ones did you also go for whiteline rear droplinks as my hardrace droplinks didnt last so replaced them with whiteline ones .

[Rdlangy1]

Yes hardrace adjustable and no went hardrace droplinks as were part of the kit... my whiteline droplinks have only last 4000 miles anyway so interested to see what happens with the hardrace ones

[scooby doo]

Very good , will be better , the sti trailing arms (pink set) did the same putting front links on rear

[Ginola]

Later models have the same front and rear as standard (straight ball jointed with no C's at the back, I went for the SuperPro ones, here is one undone.

[Rdlangy1]

Well here's the hardline kit that arrived from Alyn today...



4x control arms
2x trailing arms
2x bracket adaptors
2x ball joint drop links

Also had two new exhaust gaskets arrive and the modine top oil seals...

[Steve_PPP]

Hardrace stuff looks shiny....

Why two modine seals, it only takes one

[Rdlangy1]

I knew a mate that wanted one too

[Ginola]

Shinny new bits!!! What you doing exhaust wise Ryan?


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[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Shinny new bits!!! What you doing exhaust wise Ryan?


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Really not sure tbh Dave - I like my grumble and growl but there is no way it will pass anywhere but Lydden... it needs more thought....

Maybe a cobra track back box which I can swap in and out when needed...

[Ginola]

There's a few options, I've got this urge to try an RCM one at some point too lol


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[Rdlangy1]

Yeah rob suggested looking at the RCM one....

[scooby doo]

Shinny bits looking good!!
Will handle great . Exhaust wise if you like your system and save some penny's you could have a bubble style silencer fitted in your centre section . That will Bring it down a couple db

Cars coming along tho !!!

[Rdlangy1]

Thanks mate

[SamSTI]

Looking good mate! I'm installing a cobra track day system (3 inch decat) in a couple of weeks.... more than welcome to meet up to see if it takes your fancy or not?

[scotty]

Put some grease on the silver joints on the hardrace lateral adjustable arms or they will rust like mine .

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by SamSTI

Looking good mate! I'm installing a cobra track day system (3 inch decat) in a couple of weeks.... more than welcome to meet up to see if it takes your fancy or not?

Cheers Sam, I have the cobra 3" sports cat system at present but would be great to test and see what difference the track system makes...

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by scotty

Put some grease on the silver joints on the hardrace lateral adjustable arms or they will rust like mine .

[Rdlangy1]

Well ive re-booked in with Charlie at SRR for Sat 17th 8:45am to get the true power reading for the car. I have a feeling I know what it is but ill wait until its confirmed.

Going forward, looking at 725cc RCM Injectors as these will comfortably take the turbo I have. Could go 835cc RCM injectors for same cost, but don't see the point as its unlikely I will get a bigger turbo in the next year or two.

[Ginola]

Hmm 17th you say!

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Hmm 17th you say!

8:45am Dave

[555_Si]

Hmm has he got room for clio i wonder

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

Hmm has he got room for clio i wonder

Only one way to find out

[555_Si]

I was going to pop over to jim today as was working nearby buy alas i didnt get time.

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

I was going to pop over to jim today as was working nearby buy alas i didnt get time.

[555_Si]

that's my dad's 70th mind, but then seeing as I spent my 40th at Charlies I only think it is fair?

[555_Si]

oh and I wish I knew you wanted the Hardrace arms, I have an identical brand new set sitting here! amongst many other whiteline and rcm goodies.

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

oh and I wish I knew you wanted the Hardrace arms, I have an identical brand new set sitting here! amongst many other whiteline and rcm goodies.

Sod's law pmsl!

Drop me a PM with what whiteline and RCM parts u have - especially if it's RCM 725cc injectors or RCM baffled 3" centre section pmsl!!

[urabusMY94]

Originally Posted by 555_Si

oh and I wish I knew you wanted the Hardrace arms, I have an identical brand new set sitting here! amongst many other whiteline and rcm goodies.

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Sod's law pmsl!

Drop me a PM with what whiteline and RCM parts u have - especially if it's RCM 725cc injectors or RCM baffled 3" centre section pmsl!!

Simon, if there's anything left after Ryan has had first dibs, can you PM a list with prices.
Cheers

[Rdlangy1]

More Motul 300v ordered today to put in stock ready for when sump work gets done. Now to look for more brake fluid...

If anyone wants PF600 let me know as I have 3 bottles pmsl

Looking at PF RH665 or Motul RBF660...

[asperformance]

RH665 is the "best" there is..................

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by asperformance

RH665 is the "best" there is..................

Thanks alyn - will be in touch in due course...

[Frenchie]

I saw in the press their was a lottery winner in your area, not you by any chance.

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Frenchie

I saw in the press their was a lottery winner in your area, not you by any chance.

I wish matey

[Rdlangy1]

Well.........
Got the car out the garage last night, and there was "a noise".... You know the noise....that one that doesn't sound right, doesn't sound normal, but you aren't quite sure whats wrong!

After a quick facetime session with Mr Rob, and numerous texts to Mr Dave, I decided to drive to Charlies anyway and see what was what.

Well as the drive progressed the noise got louder, and louder, and the car got slower, and slower, so driving off boost all the way was my safe method.

Got to Charlie's, and after Dave plugged in it showed some unhappy timing advance.............whatever that is! ha ha

Charlie got in, revved it once, and both Dave and Charlie instantly realised I had blown gaskets on the up-pipe, or manifold.

I coaxed the car back home, and have now ordered up every gasket to ensure I can replace all of them so as to be safe.

Hopefully its nothing more than a gasket and not a hole in the up-pipe or something more serious e.t.c. Shouldn't be the turbo to Up-Pipe gasket as that was brand new two weeks ago when the turbo was fitted.

So after feeling sorry for myself, and ordering the gaskets, I decided to order up a few more parts:
Rear Trailing Arm bolt kit
Rear Lateral Link Bolt Kit
RCM Baffle Plate to go with my RCM Baffled Sump

This should then be all the parts needed to get my gaskets sorted, rear drop links, rear control arms, rear trailing arms all replaced, and get the RCM Baffled Sump and Baffle Plate installed, RCM 11mm Oil Pump, Cosworth Timing Belt Kit fitted, new water pump, and another oil change done.

All hopefully before 15th July when I might finally get to Charlie's and get the car on the Dyno, probably to only find out im getting 355bhp not 380bhp

That is all.........For now......

[C. J.]

Errh baffle plate is a waste with a baffled sump !
Know about the feeling sorry for yourself bit !

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Errh baffle plate is a waste with a baffled sump !
Know about the feeling sorry for yourself bit !

I have heard stories for and against having both... RCM say both can be used in conjunction with each other and although I know I won't be racing it hard enough to warrant both, at least this way I know I have the best protection I can have

Now - where's that noose!

[scooby doo]

That feeling sucks all been there one way or another..
some great bits going on

[Granby]

Nothing like ordering parts to make you feel better

[Steve_PPP]

Shame to hear of the issues mate, with the problem occurring only two weeks after all the work on your car it'll be related. If you don't think its the gasket between uppipe/turbo then i suspect the one at the bottom of the uppipe, could easily have been disturbed during your turbo swap.

Hope you get it sorted easily enough and the figures are what you expect mate

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Shame to hear of the issues mate, with the problem occurring only two weeks after all the work on your car it'll be related. If you don't think its the gasket between uppipe/turbo then i suspect the one at the bottom of the uppipe, could easily have been disturbed during your turbo swap.

Hope you get it sorted easily enough and the figures are what you expect mate

Cheers steve

Have a good day today

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Granby

Nothing like ordering parts to make you feel better

[Frenchie]

Hope the problem isn't to serious. Good idea to order more parts, you can never have enough new BITS.

[Ginola]

I'd save your money with the baffled plate if you can dude, it really is not needed at all with a group N sump.
I reckon it will be manifold to up-pipe gasket, it's not too bad a job to do on yours take half an hour! Good to see you both yesterday!

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Ginola

I'd save your money with the baffled plate if you can dude, it really is not needed at all with a group N sump.
I reckon it will be manifold to up-pipe gasket, it's not too bad a job to do on yours take half an hour! Good to see you both yesterday!

Was great to catch up with you as well mate

[asperformance]

as above Ryan i thought we had previously had this convo that i wouldn't use a baffle plate with a pukka sump................

exhaust gasket should be easy repair and carry all required on the shelf if needs be

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by asperformance

as above Ryan i thought we had previously had this convo that i wouldn't use a baffle plate with a pukka sump................

exhaust gasket should be easy repair and carry all required on the shelf if needs be

Indeed we did Alyn, but I am over cautious...or stupid...

gaskets already ordered (I have to share the love sometimes), but I will be on to you soon for service parts...

[scotty]

Stoopid comes to mind anyway hope you get things sorted and get on the dyno for a power run to see what the old girl is pushing after some love .

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by scotty

Stoopid comes to mind

[Ginola]

Send the cosy plate back Ryan save some penny's (distance selling and all that) it's the cost of a Trackday!


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[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Send the cosy plate back Ryan save some penny's (distance selling and all that) it's the cost of a Trackday!


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[Rdlangy1]

Well car is due to a local MOT place tomorrow to have exhaust gaskets looked at... hoping that's all it is and nothing more serious as driving 150mtrs up the road and I had small smell of burning and little wofts of smoke coming from under the bonnet! Checked and couldn't see anything when static... it's a 8 mile drive to the garage and it's only to see what needs doing so they can quote although will try and sweet talk them to do what they find if they can! We shall see!

[Ginola]

You where supposed to jack it up and take a look! x fingers it will just be a gasket


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[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Ginola

You where supposed to jack it up and take a look! x fingers it will just be a gasket


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Yes I know - but then my mechanic was gonna do them when he does all the other bits but he had to postpone coz of family issue and so I have to get gaskets sorted before Beaulieu otherwise I'm a no go!

U know me and mechanics dave - all the gear and no idea!

[Scott.T]

Could just be rocker cover gasket weeping and dripping onto headers.

[Rdlangy1]

Yeah could be - although we're only replaced year ago both sides... I shall update all tomorrow when I know more!

[Rdlangy1]

Well none the wiser tbh... up-pipe and turbo to exhaust both seem to be blowing but also turbo making some weird noises so down to Jules on Saturday to see what's going on and hopefully fix enough to get me to Beaulieu on Sunday - time will tell...

[Rdlangy1]

Well at Jules with the motor and we have some answers...

Turbo to exhaust - one bolt not put on bottom when turbo installed allowing gasket to blow...

Up-pipe - two nuts put on one bolt so one bolt not having nut on also caused blow...



Few more bits come off car for upgrading...

[scotty]

Remember to grease those adjusters on the hardrace kit dont want them going like mine lol.

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by scotty

Remember to grease those adjusters on the hardrace kit dont want them going like mine lol.

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Turbo to exhaust - one bolt not put on bottom when turbo installed allowing gasket to blow...

Up-pipe - two nuts put on one bolt so one bolt not having nut on also caused blow...

Well that will be the problem then, I'm surprised it wasn't blowing from the start.

[Rdlangy1]

Probably was...

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Probably was...

Mapper should of picked it up at point of mapping if it was so doubt it was

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Mapper should of picked it up at point of mapping if it was so doubt it was

Mapper installed new turbo and gaskets...

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Mapper installed new turbo and gaskets...

Oops !!!

[Scott.T]

A small blow like that is going to make nigh on no difference to spool so pretty undetectable from a mapping/ECU perspective. A split up-pipe flex joint is a bit easier to spot due to the hole tending to be alot bigger.

A bit of a slap dash fit though TBH!

[scotty]

What you doing with your old trailing arms and lateral arms .

[Rdlangy1]

Dunno why

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Dunno why

Can you send them to me please of course for a price

[Rdlangy1]

Yeah drop me a text

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Rdlangy1

Yeah drop me a text

Will do .

[Rdlangy1]

Well gaskets sorted, and hardrace suspension bits all installed and waiting for geo setup Tuesday...







Once geo setup is done then all adjusters will be greased up to prevent rust...

Also ordered uprated injectors so that I have no components restricting performance at all - and also future proofs the car should I decide to go 2.1 stroker and bigger turbo next year.

Finally, I am speaking with cobra exhausts about supplying a 3" pipe track back box only so I can swap it on and off when I feel like being brave again

During this week Jules will be installing RCM Baffled Sump, cosworth timing belt kit and pulleys etc, new plugs, new oil & filter, coolant change, fuel filter, RCM 11mm uprated oil pump, new water pump, and the RCM catch can I nabbed of C.J if we can find somewhere to mount it...

Then hopefully I collect the car next sat all sorted

[Rdlangy1]

Ok so because I'm an untrusting so and so - I decided to do some research on the "SC38" I bought.

Now I believe (and I am not the most knowledgable by any means) that an SC38 is meant to be an 18g turbo.

Although scoobyclinic don't state a grammage on their website, having read some forumns I believe the general
Rule of thumb is:
SC36 - 360bhp - 16g
SC38 - 380bhp - 18g
SC40 - 400bhp - 20g
And so on.....

Well I took a look at my Blouch Turbo box that the new "SC38" came in. There was an "SC38 Billet" sticker placed over the blouch product code however it was also on the bottom...



So I looked on blouch website to confirm what I was reading and indeed - the barcode product is actually a 16g not 18g - so I believe actually an SC36.

Now my order was delayed by some 2-3weeks with "customs clearance" being stated as the reason - after much chasing it finally arrived. I am now wondering whether I got sent something else just to ensure I got something as it was so late.

Strangely blouch reckon their 16g Turbo can make 410bhp but I haven't read anywhere of 16g turbos making that sort of power (again I am happy to be proved wrong).



Now this all stems because when mapped, I got only 355bhp from a setup that "should" have given around 380bhp at least.

People's views and thoughts?

I have also emailed scoobyclinic for their opinions.

Ryan

[Frenchie]

Looks like you need to have a serious talk with Scoobyclinic.

[Rdlangy1]

Indeed - I feel my only problem may be it was originally bought on the 17th January, but not installed until 30th May so only been on car 2 months and covered a couple hundred miles...

[Frenchie]

If Scoobyclinic sold you something that was branded up to be one thing and turns out it's something else I think you are totally in the driving seat.

[Rdlangy1]

Well I have a reply from Scooby clinic stating they re-boxed it as the SC38 box was dirty! What codswallop.. he has confirmed that an SC38 should indeed be an 18g so he wants pics as he thinks he can tell visually..... hmmmmm

[SpecB]

One thing to consider with the hard race arms is rather than greasing the adaptors put some waxoyl or similar on them (dinotrol clear would be good). This will mean they are a bit harder to adjust in the future wth cleaning needed etc. but at least they will adjust!

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by SpecB

One thing to consider with the hard race arms is rather than greasing the adaptors put some waxoyl or similar on them (dinotrol clear would be good). This will mean they are a bit harder to adjust in the future wth cleaning needed etc. but at least they will adjust!

Smart idea that nick thanks

[scotty]

Ryan if you want you could start another thread about these turbos to see if there is any difference as i have a sc38 which i can post pics up of when i get home to compare them both if you like .

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by scotty

Ryan if you want you could start another thread about these turbos to see if there is any difference as i have a sc38 which i can post pics up of when i get home to compare them both if you like .

Hi mate - what would be handy is if you could measure the internal diameter of the inlet...

Scoobyclinic are telling me the SC36 is 38mm Inlet internal diameter and the SC38 is 42mm..

So if u could confirm that it would be great as I'm back to Jules tomorrow with digital callipers to measure.

If indeed it is an SC36 then Scooby clinic have agreed to swap it which is a result, although after asking for a list of mods they reckon they have had issues with customers using cobra systems that can take 30bhp off the power...



Guess I'll find out tomorrow for definite - but scotty if u could give me that measurement it would be superb!

Ryan

[scotty]

Will measure it when i get home for you with a pic aswell for future reference .

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by scotty

Will measure it when i get home for you with a pic aswell for future reference .

Ur a gent

[scotty]

Heres some pics as requested hope these help


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[Rdlangy1]

Super - cheers mate - 2nd pic measures 41mm so yeah that's what I need to check mine is tomorrow eve

[asperformance]

rears arms from a new-age are longer than classic arms.............

[Ginola]

How did the measuring go?

[Rdlangy1]

Originally Posted by Ginola

How did the measuring go?

Measuring tom eve mate

[scotty]

Originally Posted by asperformance

rears arms from a new-age are longer than classic arms.............

Its for a friend with a newage

[Rdlangy1]

Well the jury is still out with the turbo, so waiting for more info.

In the meantime, cosworth timing belt kit all fitted, water pump all done, 11mm uprated oil pump all done, modine seal done, plugs changed, fuel filter changed.

Thurs eve is sump, and then no doubt more detective work on this bloody turbo!

RCM injectors have just arrived, so that will be sorted soon.

[scotty]

Did you get a chance to measure the turbo also its coming together nicely not long until you can test out how well your geo set will be once its done .