My Build at last

JR Motorsports Limited Rye E/Sussex
Looking for someone to tune my car in the Southeast is hard. So when i heard about JR Motorsports Limited i took a look. I met James Rumsey & like me is a total petrol head. He introduced me to his engine builder Jimmy & that was that i booked the car in. Going for a fully forged 2litre all Cosworth build from baffled sump to flowed & ported head. The build itself is good for 850bhp ish not that i will be running that. The point is doing it right and making it very strong. I will be one of the first in my area to have this sort of build by JR Motorsports so fingers crossed. My main point is what a friendly lot. Take a look at this place it's Fantastic.

Engine out & its still warm from me driveing it in there!!!


Striped to this in three hours. Bloody quick.

Some new bits from Cosworth. The younger members might call this bling. I call it metal porn!


James Skayers is well known for his engine build's. He also loves a bit of head work, take a look at the seats! 4 angle cut




Cam's were made for this build 276 In & Ex pullys also made.

Crank pully is fluid filled- very posh

The clutch & flywheel are straight off a WRC Carbon something or other cant remember its brand name. Errrr yes i can Foooking expensive.

Turbo has arived at last from Forced performance so should be on for this weekend. Its not big as it should put out 420/450bhp ish. This build was not done for outright bhp. It is built to be a very caperble road/trackday car. Forgot to mention valves are only 1mm oversize springs & retainers are a bit of a secret? APRacing 6 potts were on the car when i bought it so there definately man enough. As some on here know one of the discs cracked last year. Ray replaced them at a cost of £450 for two discs so havent done any miles. Ive also had the chassi polly bushed [everything] to finish off & i should see them this Sat new Tein top adjustable coilovers. Anyway thats me skint homeless & another divorce on the way. Oh well role on Germany

Can't wait to see it on Saturday mate.

I'm with you all the way mate, bullet proof it above everything else. And after the conversation we had the other day, that kind of power is spot on.

Good luck with it all mate.

Just to add all rusty nut's & bolts have been replaced or reconditioned. All bearings are either Cosworth Or Arp. Cam's were made for the car to Jimmy's own spec by Piper cams. Head gasket is HKS. Only thing i'm changing cosmetically is the rear bumper & rear spoiler. Allot of money has gone into this build so i hope it stays together. This was all Paul's fault [red classic 450bhp with ppg] introducing me to James Rumsey then James introducing himself to my bloody wallet. You will meet this man on Sat he is a total petrol head & looks nothing like a multi millionaire at 28years old.

[C. J.]

Looks and sounds very nice

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Nige

Just to add all rusty nut's & bolts have been replaced or reconditioned. All bearings are either Cosworth Or Arp. Cam's were made for the car to Jimmy's own spec by Piper cams. Head gasket is HKS. Only thing i'm changing cosmetically is the rear bumper & rear spoiler. Allot of money has gone into this build so i hope it stays together. This was all Paul's fault [red classic 450bhp with ppg] introducing me to James Rumsey then James introducing himself to my bloody wallet. You will meet this man on Sat he is a total petrol head & looks nothing like a multi millionaire at 28years old.

I would like a quick ride along in germany please squire!

[2-jaffacake-tone]

about time nige!! looking very good

[Red Baron]

I must admit, I didn't think James looked like a 28 year old millionaire when he was trying to explain to the nice traffic officer why he had black and silver number plates on his GTR. Honestly officer, it was made before 1972.
On a serious note, heard he's a nice guy and looking forward to having a look round on Saturday.

Oh yeah, build looks good too, I've no idea why you need a fluid filled crank pulley but I want one

Originally Posted by Shane

I must admit, I didn't think James looked like a 28 year old millionaire when he was trying to explain to the nice traffic officer why he had black and silver number plates on his GTR. Honestly officer, it was made before 1972.
On a serious note, heard he's a nice guy and looking forward to having a look round on Saturday.

Oh yeah, build looks good too, I've no idea why you need a fluid filled crank pulley but I want one

Ha! Ha! he never mentioned anything about being pulled

[Scott.T]

Good to see the conrods horizontally opposed...at least they got that right.
Shame it won't be the same when their put into that soul-less in-line 4.

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Good to see the conrods horizontally opposed...at least they got that right.
Shame it won't be the same when their put into that soul-less in-line 4.

lo, we can record one of our flat fours for Nige to play on his stereo.

Looking good Nige, Damn i really got to get the blower on the M3 before Germany now.

Anyone lend me 5K?

Originally Posted by Crowman

Damn i really got to get the blower on the M3 before Germany now.

Anyone lend me 5K?

Eeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. No

Originally Posted by worzel

Eeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. No

Eeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr , now where is that thread on your scooby build. Laura Laura !!

5k used notes in a brown envelope,alrite

It's on it's way.

20's OK?

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Good to see the conrods horizontally opposed...at least they got that right.
Shame it won't be the same when their put into that soul-less in-line 4.

Oi the only thing soul-less now is my shoes Went up to the garage this am. Engine is now in the hole
,light at the end of tunnel.

It'll all be worth while though mate.

Quality Nige. Looking forward to Germany big time, So many quality cars going now.
I have a little sticker to go on the M3,which will cause a few raised eyebrows!!

Originally Posted by Crowman

Quality Nige. Looking forward to Germany big time, So many quality cars going now.
I have a little sticker to go on the M3,which will cause a few raised eyebrows!!

What, something like.....


"If being driven slowly or carefully, this car has been stolen, call the fuzz!"

Originally Posted by Crowman

Quality Nige. Looking forward to Germany big time, So many quality cars going now.
I have a little sticker to go on the M3,which will cause a few raised eyebrows!!

Will it be on the lines of blow or suck!

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Nige

Will it be on the lines of blow or suck!

Nah...More like 'Clarkson Was Wrong'

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Nah...More like 'Clarkson Was Wrong'

About what?

[Scott.T]

I'll let you work it out.... LOL...

Take a look. Last time i seen one glow like this was on an RS Turbo!

[Chunk]

Looking and sounding good mate

Engine In the whole

[Greig]

Looks good when will you get to test it out??, Bet you can't wait!!

More probs now. My intercooler & my recirculating valve are not man enough. The jay pipe from the turbo + the turbo elbow need work ie one need fabricating & the other needs porting. Today i managed to buy a H.K.S. intercooler so thats done. My next problem was the r/valve. I dont like all that whoosh bang stuff so trying to find one in alloy that didn't make silly noises was quite a task. Found one in bonny Scotland in the end & should be on its way to me in the next couple of days. Dave Rowe is mapping the car next Wednesday {if car is ready} It should be entertaining as it hasn't even started up as yet. Fingers crossed.

Almost there Nige, great stuff, bet you cant bloomin wait

Originally Posted by Crowman

Almost there Nige, great stuff, bet you cant bloomin wait

Its driving me barmy. The delays for outside parts has been stupid. I really need to be in it as there will be probs at first to iron out. I would like some time to get used to it before we go to Germany.

Plenty of time mate, you will be bored of it by germany

[Greig]

Originally Posted by Nige

Its driving me barmy. The delays for outside parts has been stupid. I really need to be in it as there will be probs at first to iron out. I would like some time to get used to it before we go to Germany.

Bet you can't wait, i think mine is going to be a mad rush to be ready for Germany, Although just picked up a very tasty Zeigon carbon bonnet and a roll cage for it.
Your old car will be quite a bit different when you see it next as the pile of new parts keeps on growing!!
Hope you get the beast back on the road soon

All coming on nicely Nige. It's a proper pain in the arse getting all these litle final bits to finish it isn't it. And amazing just how much these "little bits" cost.

Just when you thought you had stemmed the flow of cash leaving your pockets at a vast rate of knots too.

Well the mapping last week didnt go very well. The car needs an ecu as it didnt play ball with the bigger injecters.Thing's looked qute prommising at one point as it made 310 atw @ 1.4bar on std injecters. So will try again next week with a motec ecu. More £££££

[Greig]

Hope you get the results your after! Can you have launch control
with that ecu?

[C. J.]

Have you not thought about syvecs ecu ?

[2-jaffacake-tone]

Originally Posted by Greig

Hope you get the results your after! Can you have launch control
with that ecu?

antilag and L/C are availble for more £££ extra



sounded very aggressive on the rollers

[C. J.]

Went to the black swan at pp for lunch to day and stumbled on the MLR sussex meet
The looks they gave so Anti Lag was deployed on leaving

[Steve_PPP]

nice

there was a pretty black Evo 8 parked across the street from me earlier








shame it sounded poo

Originally Posted by C. J.

Have you not thought about syvecs ecu ?

I wasn't a happy bunny when they couldnt finish mapping the car. So to make me feel better they gave me a price i could not refuse on the Motec. I wont be useing launch as i dont do the drag thing. I will have that ani-lag jobby though. Hope to have the diffs run by the Motec later in the year to. Along with various other fuel maps.
sounded very aggressive on the rollers It sounds the dogs dangley bits i thought. Obviously not as good as a Scoob though

Originally Posted by C. J.

Went to the black swan at pp for lunch to day and stumbled on the MLR sussex meet
The looks they gave so Anti Lag was deployed on leaving

I get the same looks when i go to the Scoob meets mate & would do the anti-lag thing to if i had it! Instead i just use my two bow fingers. All good fun. Most of the Scoob guy's dont mind. I find the Evo boy's are to far up there own backside's slaging Scoobs & they have never even owned one. They dont like it when i stand up for the Scoobs so f..k em!

[666subaru]

Originally Posted by Nige

I get the same looks when i go to the Scoob meets mate & would do the anti-lag thing to if i had it! Instead i just use my two bow fingers. All good fun. Most of the Scoob guy's dont mind. I find the Evo boy's are to far up there own backside's slaging Scoobs & they have never even owned one. They dont like it when i stand up for the Scoobs so f..k em!

Good on you buddy

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Nige

I get the same looks when i go to the Scoob meets mate & would do the anti-lag thing to if i had it! Instead i just use my two bow fingers. All good fun. Most of the Scoob guy's dont mind. I find the Evo boy's are to far up there own backside's slaging Scoobs & they have never even owned one. They dont like it when i stand up for the Scoobs so f..k em!

Did try to talk but they didn't want to know so yes your comment is about right

[Skullfudge]

That's looking nice Nige !

A few more bit's done today 3bar map sensor 3 port boost solenoid. Motec fitted & waiting for Mr Rowe. Suspension set up sort of sorted. Once Germany is done i will need to drop back to a 35 profile wall as unable to bring the ride hight down to much on 40's. On the wheels & 245 tyres i'm using there is no more Clarence to be had. Oil & filter change then back on the Dyno. If all is well i should be in the car by the weekend.

[Greig]

Happy days

Originally Posted by Greig

Happy days

Hows your car coming on mate? You should be putting up in the projects as your is being re-built.

[Greig]

Yep I've got my entire body crossed as it has been promised
back on Thursday so we've got the long weekend to play
rebuild and where did that bit come from!!
As soon as I get it bAck I will get the camera out and start
a thread. I have been busy fitting the coilovers and painting
all of the arms, subfraims, fan housings and anything else
that I could see. Will you have yours mapped before the long
weekend? Plenty of time To try it out!

[Tyler]

Love it Nige... Good thread

Car now being mapped on Saturday 3rd and that should be that. Well for now anyway

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Nige

Car now being mapped on Saturday 3rd and that should be that. Well for now anyway

at sumo? allowed spectators?

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Nige

Car now being mapped on Saturday 3rd and that should be that. Well for now anyway

Do you want a lift??

Originally Posted by Hongkongphooey

at sumo? allowed spectators?

Not sure as there normaly closed. James is opening up for me as in his words i'm special . I will try & find out mate.

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

Do you want a lift??

No thanks mate i'm going straight there from work.

Cars back it's quick no figures as the r/road's computer shat its self. So Dave Rowe mapped on the road.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Nige

Cars back it's quick no figures as the r/road's computer shat its self. So Dave Rowe mapped on the road.

Nice one Nige.


That was handy the r/road not working. Likely story.

I ve no doubt all will be revealed in time.

[Greig]

Nice one, enjoy

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Nige

Cars back it's quick no figures as the r/road's computer shat its self. So Dave Rowe mapped on the road.

is he not able to give a figure as JGM did it for me?

Originally Posted by Hongkongphooey

is he not able to give a figure as JGM did it for me?

Yes he did but i dont beleive him

[2-jaffacake-tone]

yhpm

How come my project build dont get a uuurrrr sticky
is it cos i is Evo????

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Nige

is it cos i is Evo????

Yep

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Yep

PMSL

Nige as its you and to be fair its well deserved as a sticky, we might give it some glue.

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Nige

Yes he did but i dont beleive him

So what did he tell you????

[2-jaffacake-tone]

you cant have a sticky untill we get a bhp figure lmao

Ok Dave thinks 700bhp i think 70bhp Now do i get my sticky

[2-jaffacake-tone]

i hope thats at the wheels :P

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Nige

Ok Dave thinks 700bhp

Wow.

NICE ONE NIGE !!!!

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

Wow.

NICE ONE NIGE !!!!

Errr i was taking the micky. Now ive driven it a bit i reckon its about 350 ish no quicker than my Scoob was. It is only at JRM's stage one it spools quick 3000rpm . There is plenty more to come when & if i need it. Right now still messing about with my suspention & my bad back

A few bits done today front splitter in CF wont last long at the ring & i fitted my Gauge's so i can see what's going on.


I know the car is dirty i haven't cleaned it for three months

I am sat here like a tit, trying to work out why I can't stick the thread.

Just noticed it is a sticky

Looking very good Nige, love the gauges

[Hongkongfooi]

loving the carbon......must resist......

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Nige

Errr i was taking the micky. Now ive driven it a bit i reckon its about 350 ish no quicker than my Scoob was. It is only at JRM's stage one it spools quick 3000rpm . There is plenty more to come when & if i need it. Right now still messing about with my suspention & my bad back

Well thats the wind up gone.

Nige told me some time ago what he was looking for. I bet he's got a bit more than that though.

Bullet proof is much better.

Just out of interest Nige, what does the old "Bum Dyno" point towards in your opinion? Especially comparing it to the old Scooby?

It safe at the mo with approx 350/380ish it maxed out my 680 injectors @ 1.7bar it should be @ 2bar. So next step is 044 fuel pump with 800 injectors should see the turbo's full potential then. This wont happen until after Germany. I'm a little disapointed at the mo it handles but not the way i want it to YET.

Thats a bummer mate. Will you be able to get the handling sorted pre-Germany?

Originally Posted by worzel

Thats a bummer mate. Will you be able to get the handling sorted pre-Germany?

Yes mate. Its just me being a numpty i cant find a setting i like or one that i think will suit the ring. Need to get out Rye/Camber way on my old bike runs & push the thing HARD.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Nige

It safe at the mo with approx 350/380ish it maxed out my 680 injectors @ 1.7bar it should be @ 2bar. So next step is 044 fuel pump with 800 injectors should see the turbo's full potential then. This wont happen until after Germany. I'm a little disapointed at the mo it handles but not the way i want it to YET.

Me thinks he is quoting ATW figures not flywheel, especially if maxing 680's.

[2-jaffacake-tone]

deffo ATW figers!

I must say I was expecting about 400 maxing out the 680's.

I bet it's pretty bloody good.

Another out of interest question..... How does the weight of an Evo compare with a scooby?

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by worzel

How does the weight of an Evo compare with a scooby?

Depends who's driving.........

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Nige

It safe at the mo with approx 350/380ish it maxed out my 680 injectors @ 1.7bar it should be @ 2bar. So next step is 044 fuel pump with 800 injectors should see the turbo's full potential then. This wont happen until after Germany. I'm a little disapointed at the mo it handles but not the way i want it to YET.

800cc will see this side of 600bhp

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Depends who's driving.........

Meaning if Jaffas driving it, Lightweight Nimble Fighter. Or if I'm driving it Heavyweight Plodding Bomber.

Originally Posted by C. J.

800cc will see this side of 600bhp

I'm only running an FP green 600bhp sounds good not with this turbo though. Its the new hta version nobody has any outright figures for it yet. Quite a few people off the Mlr are asking about my dyno figures that i dont have. The old green was good for 420/450bhp the new one should give a little more 480/500. Rossport say they have one running 510bhp atf @ 2.2bar. I want a little more fuel in there hence the 800's & 044 so i can add a little more boost 2bar giving me more torque & safety with the top end fuelling. + side it will also be in place if & when i want more I will leave it alone for now & concentrate on my twisty bits as that really needs sorting before the RING

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Nige

I'm only running an FP green 600bhp sounds good not with this turbo though. Its the new hta version nobody has any outright figures for it yet. Quite a few people off the Mlr are asking about my dyno figures that i dont have. The old green was good for 420/450bhp the new one should give a little more 480/500. Rossport say they have one running 510bhp atf @ 2.2bar. I want a little more fuel in there hence the 800's & 044 so i can add a little more boost 2bar giving me more torque & safety with the top end fuelling. + side it will also be in place if & when i want more I will leave it alone for now & concentrate on my twisty bits as that really needs sorting before the RING

Thats what I was meaning , room for more when needed
When you going to dyno it to find out ?

Originally Posted by C. J.

Thats what I was meaning , room for more when needed
When you going to dyno it to find out ?

As soon as they get it fixed & i'm off work. Would be good to know were it is at the mo

Looking really nice Nige, really looking forward to seeing it in germany

At last Twistybit's sorted had it back to Jr motorsports today as i couldn't get the car to work for me. Jimmy the star worked his magic & straight away it felt fantastic. Will now leave it alone. Oh yes it went on the dyno & made 372bhp & 345ftlb torque @ 1.7bar dropping to 1.5bar pump fuel. They say there is another 30/40bhp to come if i fit 800 injectors + a Bosh 044. To be honest once i get up to speed with the way it's now handleing do i really need any more?

[BIG"E"]

You know you do Nige.


I bet your a happy bunny now.

Blinding stuff mate

I think it's sorted at those kind of figures.

Good job mate.

It's just about there now very very hapy with the twisty's

Thought i would put this up. It may look odd it's just the way the last pull was done. You sit at 3000rpm floor it then when you get to a certain speed it lets you go.

[Steve_PPP]

so 372bhp at the wheels - whats that at the flywheel? 440ish?? nice job

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

so 372bhp at the wheels - whats that at the flywheel? 440ish?? nice job

Some work on 24%/25% loss from fly bhp some work on wheel horse power divided by 0.76 to be honest i'm not that botherd it works very well on the road.

When out with James Rumsey owner of Jr motor sport & my car went BANG!
After looking straight down at my oil pressure gauge that was reading fine dumping the clutch {all done in a millisecond} We popped the bonnet took a quick look. Nothing to see so set of back to the garage with a very loud metalic noise going on Once covers were off we could see the clutch & housing on the air con pump were adrift. Further inspection showed moulting metal & filings in & around the pump area. The whole lot pipework pump bottle rad is contaminated with metal filings. To replace with new would be over 2k so for now i will remove it. The belt will be replaced with an Rs belt so can be put back on the road cheep. I hope this is the last bad thing now as Germany isn't to far off. I also hope it wont be as hot as last year

**** mate, thats awful luck

How long will it be out of comission for?

Thats a funny looking graph by the way, looks like a road dyno graph?

I know it's weired the other graphs are ok. I thought i would put that one up as it was me in the car & they were trying out some of the dyno's extras out. This one held you back for what seemed like an age even with your foot down. Once you reached a pre set speed off you went. It also has settings for drag cars,it is a clever thing. My car will be back on the road today if i can get hold of this Rs belt.

Cool stuff mate.

Lets hope you are back up and running today then matey

[C. J.]

Air con , Whats that !

In your case a window winder

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by worzel

In your case a window winder

Not that bad still got electric windows